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after the triumph of MBDTF and it being called a masterpiece and  getiing a perfect 10 score by pitchfork ( fircst mainstream album to do so in more than a decade) . while jays last EP BP3 was slammed by critics and scored a below average 4.5. Did jay feel threatened that Kanye is proving to be a more evolved artist than him and is becoming the new progressive face of hip hop. jay  probably deep down felt he needed his own twisted fantasy to bring the critics back on side (just like kanye) .. After all the album is being marketed more as a Jay-Z album with kanye production/featuring. hate to say it but perhaps this entire endeavor is more for Hovas benfit than for kanye's. Nevertheless of the politics at least we get some good music out of it right..?
 

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kanye stan alert

didnt kanye produce most of BP3? and Empire state of mind > all mbdtf tracks except runaway

wtt is sounding nothing like MBDTF
 

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That's possible, but I don't think he's using Kanye for his own benefits. After all they've been working together for a long time and seeing one of them evolve just makes the other one happy. Jay wouldn't do that. They are like brothers. Just because it's Jay & Kanye instead of Kanye & Jay doesn't necessarily mean it's more of a Jay album because they'll probably rap the same amount of time on the songs. If anything, it would be more of a Kanye album since he's a producer and writer while Jay mostly just writes.
 

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Steamboat said:
wtt is sounding nothing like MBDTF
its not about the sounding of it..its about the concept and meaning of it .. an artist taking a close look at himself which is what ye did in mbdtf
 

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Steamboat said:
kanye stan alert

didnt kanye produce most of BP3? and Empire state of mind > all mbdtf tracks except runaway

wtt is sounding nothing like MBDTF
SMH... devil in a new dress, Im so appalled, all of the lights & runaway>>>>>>> empire state of mind
 

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When WTT Comes to mind i think of it as a Jay-z album at very first, dispite the singles, i get the feeling its him who the critics will talk about more,

Ol boy aint got to long left (6-7 years max before it gets weird )
 

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SupaDupa said:
And the Jay-Z bashing has begun...
no bashing just politics coming to light.
 

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Steamboat said:
and Empire state of mind > all mbdtf tracks except runaway
[youtubeaudio]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0[/youtubeaudio]

[youtubeaudio]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RgRo9NYXjg[/youtubeaudio]
 

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Hova said:
your grasping at straws. Jay can be a snake sometimes. But he just wants to make a great album with Ye
but why ..thers a reason for everything man.. question thingssssssssss
 
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