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So many other better programs besides FL Studio that are just as easy to get: Studio One, Reason/Record, Ableton, Logic, etc.

And not because of the sounds. There are other features that should be noted. What I've learned is the most important is that FL Studio is very heavy on the CPU for whatever reason and its project files are very large. Also, the mixing plugins and mixing interfact sucks as well. And don't get me started on input lag.
 

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Ninety Seven said:
none of those programs except reason and logic have as much functionality as FL. the interface is an opinion and if you have ASIO4ALL or a decent sound card/computer then theres no performances/input issues. your computer must be pretty bad if FL is a problem on your CPU
It won't be a problem if you're only mixing 5-10 tracks, I mix way more then that on a song, so yeah, it uses alot of MY CPU power.

And I can definitely say you haven't used Ableton or Studio One if you're saying they don't have as much functionality as FL Studio. Definitely not the case. Alot more in those other programs. The only thing FL Studio has for is is the drum sequencer and ease of use.
 

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d stoner said:
i usto run FL 8 on my 2003 dell :dno:

and FL also has the most/best plugins out of all the programs.
How many tracks do you mix down on a song? How many virtual instruments you running through that thing? It depends on what you do on it. If you only do drums and samples, of course its gonna run smoothly.

And FL studio definitely doesn't have the best plugins. Neither in mixing or in sound. Reasons sounds are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I'm not even hating on FL Studio, its an easy to use program and give beginners alot of options for beginning, but there are some other things programs do alot better, so I think if you past the beginner point, you should look towards other options
 

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d stoner said:
the plugins dont all come stock... but theres hundreds of them, if not thousands... shit, i never even used all the ones i have. theres too many of them... but clearly you're just not using the right ones.

and ive never noticed a difference in performance whether i was running 3 instruments or 20... it sometimes took forever to load projects, but once it loaded it ran fine... and again that was on a garbage ass computer.


... and fuck reasons sounds :fly: ... nobody fucks with stock sounds. go get u some sound kits and sound fonts. (if not some real instruments)
Son, who you tryna call out on using some damn stock sounds? You know you can create sounds using Reason? Probably not, because you don't know who or what you're talking about? Well let me fill you in.

I don't use stock sounds son. I use Reason to create synths for my songs. I usually don't really use synths. Pretty much just piano and rhodes are virtual, but when I have to, I'll do virtual strings. I have Synthogy Ivory pianos, Alicia's Keys, Scarbee Vintage Keys, and Neo Soul Keys, so I only fuck with the best vsts. I also use the grand pianos we have at school, so that's just a matter of mic'ing it and recording it. But I got people for vocals, guitar, bass, flute, trumpet, saxophone, and trombone.

So let me reiterate son, I rarely use virtual instruments and when I do, I damn sure don't use stock sounds, or cheap sounds. Speaking of cheap sounds, who the hell still uses sound fonts? Alot of those sound as bad as the stock sounds you tryna clown. I hope you don't use any? I'm not gonna go ahead and assume you do like you tried to do to me earlier. I actually give people the benefit of the doubt instead of being an asshole.

I was giving an example of the stock sounds for the people who don't have the time, space, or money to try n get all of those vsts or don't have the musical ability to arrange all of those instruments, so they know what program had better sounds.

I wasn't even mad, but you gonna call yourself tryna tell me to get some better sounds and you aint even heard my stuff.

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Ninety Seven said:
lol. my projects have over 20 tracks at least, sometimes more. all computers, even ones under 400 come with a quad core. idk how long you used FL but anything I want to do/can do i can do with FL. i have abelton and I have watched the videos for StudioOne because I was considering getting it. You hate on FL when you barely have a computer capable of running it. you can create your own synths in FL so idk why you're calling it a beginner program. it has the power to expand into any level of expertise you want it to.
Wait, so I have a computer barely capable of running FL studio but I can run all those other DaWS perfectly, not to mention photoshop cs5?

*****, did even you read what I said? I said its heavy on the CPU, I didn't say my computer's gonna catch on fire.

The synths that come with it are ehhh, they don't give you much in terms of editing the paramaters when you're coming up with a synth or tweaking em. And like I've been saying, the mixing plugins are bad. The Parametric EQ 2's pretty good, but the rest are cheap to me.

And I've used it for over a year, so I think I've used it enough to know how it works and to say I'm not a hater.

I'm saying there are better programs, and I listed the reasons. Stop catchin feelings. Its like people take it personal anytime someone doesn't like FL Studio.
 

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d stoner said:
what? lol most of the sound fonts i have eclipse the quality of the sounds ive found in sound kits... like its not even comparable. most of them match the vsts.

anyway i know a few ppl who started on reason (and still use it occasionally) but made the switch over to FL strictly for the plugins... theres no argument, theres no opinion here. FL has the better plugins, period.

personally, ive tried out reason, acid pro (acid pro didnt last long, shit was confusing as fuck) and FL, and fruity loops is by far my favorite. not only for the depth, but the simplicity of it.
Soundfounts having sounds as good as Vst's ? Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, its not even close bro. You care to show me any decently sounding instrumental soundfont that comes close to a top level VST? I'd have to hear it or try it, because given what I know about instruments and how hard and expensive it is to sample those things, I doubt you can find a soundfont that's of equal quality for free. Its like a 1/10,000 chance tbh. They'd be retarded to give it away for free.

And the combinator? What can you do in FL studio that even rivals that? I mean the instrument sounds are miles ahead of FL studio. The only thing you can try to compare is the synth generator on both of them, but even then, Reason still gives you more options.

I mean, reasons' weak for recording, because the interface is weird, but if you rewire it with something else, it becomes a powerful synth. Thats what I use it for tbh. But dawg, use whatever's best for you. That's whats gonna work for you.
 

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d stoner said:
and yeah i clicked your bandcamp lol take your L back and stop tryna act like your a pro.
Gonna try and hate on music that hasn't been hated on.... cool story bro. Good job at trying to take a personal shot though.

Never said I was a pro either. Go ahead and ctrl + f that if you don't believe me. :hah:

 

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d stoner said:
i never said u said u were a pro. but u act like u've been doing this for decades, when your bandcamp says different, its sounds like you're a beginner.
All of those beats except for one were made within the first 4 months of producing, so I ain't even mad though.
 

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d stoner said:
what? lol i wrote this
to which u responded with an essay.
Prince Al said:
How many tracks do you mix down on a song? How many virtual instruments you running through that thing? It depends on what you do on it. If you only do drums and samples, of course its gonna run smoothly.

And FL studio definitely doesn't have the best plugins. Neither in mixing or in sound. Reasons sounds are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I'm not even hating on FL Studio, its an easy to use program and give beginners alot of options for beginning, but there are some other things programs do alot better, so I think if you past the beginner point, you should look towards other options
If this was an essay, then I'd hate to see you have to read shakespeare, lol
 

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d stoner said:
good to know lol u should probly update it.
Nah, I'm working on a big project. One with all of those instruments I was talking about. I'm more of a musician rather than a producer, so its like all of those other instruments aren't my strongpoint. My drums were weak, except only like one on there. I really only like 3 songs on there anyways.

But the whole idea is to record real instruments so I can get a more organic feel. That way, I can stick to composition, and working on arrangement and harmonies rather than focusing on doing it all on the computer.
 

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d stoner said:
a bit of piano (im not good, but i can learn songs if i try) and wind instruments... but the guitar :allears: thats where my passion is.
Cool man!

See, I'm pretty good at the piano, but I suck ass at the guitar. I probably was actually learning within a normal time frame, but I'm too impatient because I'm already good at the piano so I'd rather play that, plus I'm busy with school; so I actually sold my electric :sadblu:

I still kept the acoustic. I can only play Lost Without U and Hotel California on it, lol.
 

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d stoner said:
tbh tho, u can mix good, im jelly... i can make some sick beats, but i cant mix worth shit.
Dude, thats funny... because its like 50/50. Either people love the mixing or hate it.

That's because I hack-jobbed that whole project on my bandcamp. See, here's the story:

I was gonna drop the album, and put alot of time into it, but I got burnt out with music, so ended up quiting for like 5 months or whatever. So when I came back, I wanted to start fresh, because I got alot better on the piano, and everything; but ****** was like, we want Castle Music. So I'm like, I'll give ya'll ****** Castle Music alright :he: So I rushed this album together.

I swear I mixed tracks 3,7, and 9 in like 5 mins each. Just reverb and compression. Fucking hack job. Track 9, I didn't even do drums on it, lol. Its just a chopped sample.

Track 2 was the first track I ever mixed it, but I'm upset because it was probably the worst mixed track, but I thought it had potential.

But yeah, before I write another wall of text, yeah, that shit was soooo last minute. But I got another project I'm working on this summer, just summer music. Alot of keyboards, rhodes, a few synths, acoustic guitar, maybe some clean electric. Trying to get some summer music out.
 
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