first problemTimesitheus said:I got into Kanye when 808s was released and went back and listened to his shit
Well no shit it wasn't a hip-hop album, that's one thing that is so impressive about it.aRe_Jay said:Seriously 808's was trash and not a hiphop album imo.
Yeah, it sure doesn't make a lot of since for us to appreciate him for what he originally did, and what he does very, very wellI feel like kanye stans care about his beats, melodies
As if to say that the lyrics on 808s are bad? Dawg, to each his own I guess, but Street Lights is lyrically amazing to me.instead of his lyrics.
Yeah it's not like 808's wasn't critically acclaimed or anything...Most Kanye fans hated the idea of 808's and most of us refused to listen to the album...I didn't listen to the album til' 2009...I wasn't interested in the album til' I heard Welcome to Heartbreak and Amazing....the album is genuis and highly underrated....I regret not listening to the album sooner...also nobody said it was a Hip Hop album so if you were expecting one then you fail...aRe_Jay said:I agree. Seriously 808's was trash and not a hiphop album imo. I feel like kanye stans care about his beats, melodies instead of his lyrics.
THISROZAY said:first problem
for most (or some?) of us we've seen the progression of the artist starting with this here classic. when it first dropped it brought the classic soul sampling sound to the mainstream and was a landmark album for hip hop and the introduction of someone who was doing something completely different from gangsta rap
see getting into kanye around 808s just isnt the same. its a different game now with guys like cudi and drake running mainstream rap and to fully appreciate his albums you'd have to also recognize the significance of them in hip hop history. without kanye, no cudi or drake btw
Ty and 808's had none of that.Kay-B said:I think College Dropout has more of Kanye's personality than any other of his albums. The charisma, his struggles, some sense of humor, cockiness, etc.. by the end of the album you can't help but feeling you understand his drive and his story more than any other album he's made.
Most people like the consciousness and spirituality of the album is more overt on this one than any of his others. I personally got away with bumpin' this CD constantly at full blast in my church parking lot. "Jesus Walks" and "Never Let Me Down" and even "Two Words" passed off so easily as gospel music, lol.Timesitheus said:I think it is a great album, one of his best lyrically, and has some of his best songs on there...and obviously it was the first, showed him to be a great producer/sampler, and may be impressive just because there weren't really any expectations as far as the mainstream was concerned.
But I think...I need someone to explain to me why they think it is so good beyond those reasons. Keep in mind I got into Kanye when 808s was released (let me rephrase, this is the album that really made me a true fan. I had been listening to him as early as LR, it was an overtime process) and went back and listened to his shit. Perhaps I wouldn't get it then because my perspective with him was different. But I see a lot of people on here saying CD is a classic, sort of as if his other albums aren't, and that it is easily his best. I would have to disagree - I haven't said any of albums are "easily" his best, though I admit I am confident MBDTF will be.
Anyway, give your thoughts.
no i agree. im 17 and CD definitely hit me in those prime music-interest-building years. I've more recently gained appreciation for illmatic and nas' shit cuz most of it came out when i was a toddler lolShifty said:Naw, illmatic is a fuckin classic, but to be honest I still think CD is a bit better. it really got to me you know?