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Discussion starter · #43 ·
Dean. said:
the sooner religion becomes less popular throughout the world the better
You're logic is woefully flawed if you think that the world would be better because of the eradication of religion. There is absolutely no correlation between religion and the world changing for the better or for the worse.
 
***** said:
You're logic is woefully flawed if you think that the world would be better because of the eradication of religion. There is absolutely no correlation between religion and the world changing for the better or for the worse.
there's a correlation between all the hate in the world and religion...
 
Discussion starter · #45 ·
Dean. said:
there's a correlation between all the hate in the world and religion...
Well, go ahead and tell me why you believe that is true. I will then counter your argument. Go ahead, my esteemed friend.
 
***** said:
You're logic is woefully flawed if you think that the world would be better because of the eradication of religion. There is absolutely no correlation between religion and the world changing for the better or for the worse.
Religion is the cause of most wars  Tbh 
 
***** said:
Well, go ahead and tell me why you believe that is true. I will then counter your argument. Go ahead, my esteemed friend.
why I think the world would be better without religion?
or the correlation between the hate in the world and religion?
 
Zanzibar said:
None of it is real. The Bible, Qu'ran, Torah. Stop being such gullible fucktards
Please "bless me" with your comments, you're so cool and so "illuminated"
:he: not

stop acting like you know shit or unlocked the "secrets of human existence"
 
idk, the morals strung from the stories within holy books are quite magnificent.
 
Discussion starter · #56 ·
While there's no denying that campaigns such as the Crusades and the Thirty Years' War foundationally rested on religious ideology, it is simply incorrect to assert that religion has been the primary cause of war. Moreover, although there's also no disagreement that radical Islam was the spirit behind 9/11, it is a fallacy to say that all faiths contribute equally where religiously-motivated violence and warfare are concerned.

An interesting source of truth on the matter is Philip and Axelrod's three-volume Encyclopedia of Wars, which chronicles some 1,763 wars that have been waged over the course of human history. Of those wars, the authors categorize 123 as being religious in nature,2 which is an astonishingly low 6.98% of all wars. However, when one subtracts out those waged in the name of Islam (66), the percentage is cut by more than half to 3.23%.

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The truth is, non-religious motivations and naturalistic philosophies bear the blame for nearly all of humankind's wars. Lives lost during religious conflict pales in comparison to those experienced during the regimes who wanted nothing to do with the idea of God - something showcased in R. J. Rummel's work Lethal Politics and Death by Government:

Non-Religious Dictator Lives Lost

Joseph Stalin - 42,672,000
Mao Zedong - 37,828,000
Adolf Hitler - 20,946,000
Chiang Kai-shek - 10,214,000
Vladimir Lenin - 4,017,000
Hideki Tojo - 3,990,000
Pol Pot - 2,397,000

Rummel says: "Almost 170 million men, women and children have been shot, beaten, tortured, knifed, burned, starved, frozen, crushed or worked to death; buried alive, drowned, hung, bombed or killed in any other of a myriad of ways governments have inflicted death on unarmed, helpless citizens and foreigners. The dead could conceivably be nearly 360 million people. It is though our species has been devastated by a modern Black Plague. And indeed it has, but a plague of Power, not germs."

The historical evidence is quite clear: Religion is not the #1 cause of war.
 
alpxarslan said:
Please "bless me" with your comments, you're so cool and so "illuminated"
:he: not

stop acting like you know shit or unlocked the "secrets of human existence"
I know a God that has no problem with slavery, directly orders the slaughter of people for ridiculous reasons like working on a Sunday or being gay, and crap like talking snakes and 950 year old men, is clearly just bullshit made up by men thousands of years ago. No different to scientology today

But that's just me :kanyeshrug:
 
***** said:
Where do you want me to start? A man called Noah who lived to 950? A Jewish zombie who can walk on water? A talking snake who caused a women to eat 'forbidden fruit'? An 'all-loving' God who happens to hate several different groups of people and directly orders their execution?
 
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