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I feel in an attempt to make themselves feel cool and to desperately seperate themselves from YouTube comment section hip hop elitists people try to shun away really good hip hop from the 90's and from the underground. And frankly it's sad and pathetic.

The 90s is arguing the best period of hip hop. Most of the classic albums we have came to know and love have come from this era. Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, The Chronic, 36 Chambers, I can go on and on. Rap's biggest icons from 2Pac to Jay Z to Dr Dre have come from this era of hip hop. Yet these young kids are shunning this era because of associations with hip hop elitism.

Also the underground is great but demonized by the mainstream rap fans.  Let's take the example of Immortal Technique. A fantastic underground artist whose music has been shunned by people who love he mainstream because his fanbse has come to be associated with mainstream hating hip hop elitists. Technique has thus become the symbol of hip hop eltitism. I don't think a guy who has some great hip hop like Dance With The Devil, Point of No Return, You Never Know, etc. whose music has great lyricism, great storytelling, great production and great themes should be looked upon simply because of the fanbase that he attracts. His music is truly revolutionary and political and has inspired a lot of people to look deeper into what's going on into our world. I personally have looked deeper into Marxism, American imperialism, colonialism, the slave trade etc. simply by listening to Immortal Technique.

I am not an elitist. I enjoy the mainstream. But I recognise that the mainstream fanboys are the mirror image of hip hop elitists, both groups shun good hip go because of the perceptions that rhey have of the type of people who listen to the music. This needs to stop. Good hip hop is good hip hop let's stop associating music with groups of people, lifestyles and social status and whatever. Let's just immerse ourselves in it and just listen to the music. Let it speak to us. All that other shit is superficial and takes away from the experience of music.

 

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The only thing we hate about real hip hop is the fans. The artists should be judged based on their music no matter what.
 

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This is a very serious thread. I will not allow these trivial troll replies to pervade my thread. Redact this post or I will have you reported and escorted out of my thread.
 

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Vize Guy said:
The only thing we hate about real hip hop is the fans. The artists should be judged based on their music no matter what.
 

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ch3 said:
I feel in an attempt to make themselves feel cool and to desperately seperate themselves from YouTube comment section hip hop elitists people try to shun away really good hip hop from the 90's and from the underground. And frankly it's sad and pathetic.

The 90s is arguing the best period of hip hop. Most of the classic albums we have came to know and love have come from this era.
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It's all nostalgia
 

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I hate when people say "meme" rappers like Lil B, Lil Yachty, Kendrick Lamar, Ramriddlz, Kodak Black and all the other soundcloud rappers aren't "real hip-hop". They're just being themselves not trying to be real gritty from the streets or whatever.
 

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ch3 said:
I feel in an attempt to make themselves feel cool and to desperately seperate themselves from YouTube comment section hip hop elitists people try to shun away really good hip hop from the 90's and from the underground. And frankly it's sad and pathetic.

The 90s is arguing the best period of hip hop. Most of the classic albums we have came to know and love have come from this era. Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, The Chronic, 36 Chambers, I can go on and on. Rap's biggest icons from 2Pac to Jay Z to Dr Dre have come from this era of hip hop. Yet these young kids are shunning this era because of associations with hip hop elitism.

Also the underground is great but demonized by the mainstream rap fans.  Let's take the example of Immortal Technique. A fantastic underground artist whose music has been shunned by people who love he mainstream because his fanbse has come to be associated with mainstream hating hip hop elitists. Technique has thus become the symbol of hip hop eltitism. I don't think a guy who has some great hip hop like Dance With The Devil, Point of No Return, You Never Know, etc. whose music has great lyricism, great storytelling, great production and great themes should be looked upon simply because of the fanbase that he attracts. His music is truly revolutionary and political and has inspired a lot of people to look deeper into what's going on into our world. I personally have looked deeper into Marxism, American imperialism, colonialism, the slave trade etc. simply by listening to Immortal Technique.

I am not an elitist. I enjoy the mainstream. But I recognise that the mainstream fanboys are the mirror image of hip hop elitists, both groups shun good hip go because of the perceptions that rhey have of the type of people who listen to the music. This needs to stop. Good hip hop is good hip hop let's stop associating music with groups of people, lifestyles and social status and whatever. Let's just immerse ourselves in it and just listen to the music. Let it speak to us. All that other shit is superficial and takes away from the experience of music.
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Earth Angel said:
I hate when people say "meme" rappers like Lil B, Lil Yachty, Kendrick Lamar, Ramriddlz, Kodak Black and all the other soundcloud rappers aren't "real hip-hop". They're just being themselves not trying to be real gritty from the streets or whatever.
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ch3 said:
This is a very serious thread. I will not allow these trivial troll replies to pervade my thread. Redact this post or I will have you reported and escorted out of my thread.
unforgivable. said:
Love moments like these were threads backfire and the op gets ethered on the first page :clap:.
 
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