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'The Talk' is something that most African Americans are familiared with. It is the discussion that parents have with their sons and daughters to prepare them to deal with the racial realities of America.

The Trayvon Martin tragedy has introduce nonblack people to a part of being Black in America that is rarely shared outside of the black community.

John Derbyshire, a prominent conservative writer for The National Review, decided it was time to share the white version of 'The Talk'. What he writes is very offensive but nonetheless insightful.

I realize that when some of you read what he has to say about information he's shared with his children when it comes to their possible encounters with black people you may get upset.

I implore you not to get upset but rather use this as an information tool. If we are ever going to have a real and honest conversation about race it's important that we all start from an honest place. I just wish Derbyshire would have told his children that it was in fact white people that came up with the racial construct that he seems to insinuate is only used by black people.

It's very insightful to see what people really think when they're no longer hiding behind the veil of political correctness.

Here's just a snippet of what he wrote:

9) A small cohort of blacks—in my experience, around five percent—is ferociously hostile to whites and will go to great lengths to inconvenience or harm us. A much larger cohort of blacks—around half—will go along passively if the five percent take leadership in some event. They will do this out of racial solidarity, the natural willingness of most human beings to be led, and a vague feeling that whites have it coming.

(10) Thus, while always attentive to the particular qualities of individuals, on the many occasions where you have nothing to guide you but knowledge of those mean differences, use statistical common sense:

(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.

(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.

(10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot).

(10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.

(10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.

(10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.

(10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.

(10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the highway.

(10i) If accosted by a strange black in the street, smile and say something polite but keep moving.

(11) The mean intelligence of blacks is much lower than for whites. The least intelligent ten percent of whites have IQs below 81; forty percent of blacks have IQs that low. Only one black in six is more intelligent than the average white; five whites out of six are more intelligent than the average black. These differences show in every test of general cognitive ability that anyone, of any race or nationality, has yet been able to devise. They are reflected in countless everyday situations. “Life is an IQ test.”

(12) There is a magnifying effect here, too, caused by affirmative action. In a pure meritocracy there would be very low proportions of blacks in cognitively demanding jobs. Because of affirmative action, the proportions are higher. In government work, they are very high. Thus, in those encounters with strangers that involve cognitive engagement, ceteris paribus the black stranger will be less intelligent than the white. In such encounters, therefore—for example, at a government office—you will, on average, be dealt with more competently by a white than by a black. If that hostility-based magnifying effect (paragraph 8) is also in play, you will be dealt with more politely, too. “The DMV lady“ is a statistical truth, not a myth.

(13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.

(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.

(15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply, so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by upper-class whites and wealthy organizations, coveted by the less prosperous. To be an IWSB in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as prejudice (see paragraph 13).
Here is the entire The Talk write up

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire#axzz1rBeqdcIl

I know and heard of a lot of girls that get the talk about black guys, but this one is relative new to me. I figured something was up with some parents in higher income areas in the states. So has any KTT member experience this? Please don't try to troll the thread lets have a serious decision about this
 

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Some of it makes sense, given how people have reacted on this site.
The person for example who said the white guy walking in the black neighborhood that got beat up deserved what he got.
 

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Shamalamadingdong said:
Some of it makes sense, given how people have reacted on this site.
The person for example who said the white guy walking in the black neighborhood that got beat up deserved what he got.
I agree, but I think all parents give their kids a talk about just being safe. My parents did but race wasn't the main focus point of it, and the guy seems to be bashes blacks just cause he can. Some of the points he makes are valid. Like

(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.

(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.

(10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.

(10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.

I pretty already did all of this as a black person.

Are people really still uncomfortable about this? Avoid the issue just makes it worse.
 

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Spythe said:
I agree, but I think all parents give their kids a talk about just being safe. My parents did but race wasn't the main focus point of it, and the guy seems to be bashes blacks just cause he can. Some of the points he makes are valid. Like

(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.

(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.

(10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.

(10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.

I pretty already did all of this as a black person.

Are people really still uncomfortable about this? Avoid the issue just makes it worse.
We avoid big cities. We avoid Baltimore as much as possible. We avoided Chicago when traveling across the country last year.
My parents were uncomfortable with Atlanta.
For the record we dislike Baltimore more.

I lost my train of thought, but yea. Didn't the guy get fired for this? What are you thinking about this? You did some of these as a black person. I did/do some of these also.
 

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This is pretty ignorant. But i have to say. Like some of it is true. I dont wanna sound racist or some shit, but no way im walking through the black area of my hood with my ipod and berry at night. Thats just how it is, even other black people dont do that.
 

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I'm sure all of this is caused by the politicians and a higher power on purpose in order to divide the population.
 

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I always walk to my grandmas house and I have to get there by walking through black neighborhoods
No one fucks with me :dno:
Maybe my size scares them off
This is ignorant tbh there are bad neighborhoods filled with whites too
 

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I'll be honest, if i was out in London at night and saw a ;large group of black youths I'd probably try and avoid them cross the street or whatever.  I don't live in London by given that when you see black youths from London on the news it cause they were rioting or in a gang killing.  Perception isn't great to be honest.


In Belfast where i live everyone gets a talk about the sectarian violence that has happened and still does.  Your parents tell you what words you can and cannot say, which areas you can't go to, which people are on "your" side and what colors you can and can't wear.  Knowing this stops you from getting beat or worse.  However I feel pretty safe in most areas, Northern Ireland actually has one of the lowest crime rates in Europe which given that we basically had a 30 year civil war and more terrorist groups than the middle east is pretty surprising. 
 

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FemiO said:
I hate to say it, but...some of that is true. Like, 9.
Yeah some of the shit is actually true, all the other bullshit where he is just downing black people is pretty dumb. Goes beyond his whole purpose.

Tyler the Swerve said:
This is pretty ignorant. But i have to say. Like some of it is true. I dont wanna sound racist or some shit, but no way im walking through the black area of my hood with my ipod and berry at night. Thats just how it is, even other black people dont do that.
Yeah, I think most people will understand that

Shamalamadingdong said:
We avoid big cities. We avoid Baltimore as much as possible. We avoided Chicago when traveling across the country last year.
My parents were uncomfortable with Atlanta.
For the record we dislike Baltimore more.

I lost my train of thought, but yea. Didn't the guy get fired for this? What are you thinking about this? You did some of these as a black person. I did/do some of these also.
I think most of it just part of being an American, and not a white American. If I see a group of young wildin whites I would avoid them as well.
 

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Shamalamadingdong said:
We avoid big cities. We avoid Baltimore as much as possible. We avoided Chicago when traveling across the country last year.
My parents were uncomfortable with Atlanta.
For the record we dislike Baltimore more.

I lost my train of thought, but yea. Didn't the guy get fired for this? What are you thinking about this? You did some of these as a black person. I did/do some of these also.
Why avoid the cities?
 

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Spythe said:
Yeah some of the shit is actually true, all the other bullshit where he is just downing black people is pretty dumb. Goes beyond his whole purpose.
Yeah, I think most people will understand that
I think most of it just part of being an American, and not a white American. If I see a group of young wildin whites I would avoid them as well.
Avoid people as you see fit. Not a big deal to me. I avoid herds of drunk people of any color because of what drinking can do to people in certain situations.
 

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Barnett114 said:
You scared of the cities?
Not all of them. I just see no need to visit a nasty place like Baltimore. There is literally nothing there except a boring Hooters, over-priced shopping, and an aquarium that you have to give an arm and a leg to go see.
 
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