[Synopsis]

Can we name any other rapper who's first 2 solo albums were as strong as Lupe's? Maybe Nas & B.I.G., but other than them who's first 2 albums can compete with Lupe's?

Eminem and Kanye

 

[Versa]

Also, my post is only relevant if you define a classic as a truly masterful and amazing piece of work.  Not classic as in....slightly aged and brings about good memories when you listen to it.

F+L = 5/5 stars
The Cool = 4/5 stars
1/15 part 1 = 4/5
1/15 part 2 = 5/5
1/15 part 3 = 3/5(experimental and fun)
EOTS = 5/5(short perfection?)
Lasers = ?!?!?!?!?!!

 

[Allee]

i agree

 

[BeansNCrackers]

Love The Cool, probably cause I like the more supernatural or dark themes Lupe deals with in it. F&L was more in tune with traditional hip hop themes.

This

 

[FightinFiasco]

The Cool > F&L

This shit made me go from likin Lupe to lovin him..

 

[Dan The Fiasco]

The Cool > FnL - They are both great albums lyrically and they both have in my opinion different feels to them... The Cool just resonates with me a little more than FnL, and yes it is a classic!.... and I like what was said earlier... FnL + The Cool = LASERS!!

 

[LatinoLoco]

4 out of 5 stars

F+L is better in my opinion.

1.  The Cool doesn't know what it wants to be sometimes.  Is it a concept album, or is it just an album with a lot of good tracks?  It tries to be both and the result is awkward.

2.  Track selection.  While I think  Go Baby is a cool song and all, it is  the absolute worst choice possible to end an album that is supposed to be dark in tone.  I mean, what?  It's like Atlantic didn't understand Lupe's vision and just slapped this on at the end and figured "cool, this will work" when it fails miserably.  Also, Gotta Eat is a bit awkward in my opinion, too.  These two would have been great bonus tracks, but takes away from the atmosphere of the album.  I'm not saying it should have all been dark.  Paris Tokyo and Gold Watch work very well with the atmosphere, but these two just don't TO ME.

3.  Accessibility/Fun.  Simply put, F+L is just a more enjoyable and engaging listen than The Cool in my opinion.  While I appreciate and understand the appeal of songs like Little Weapon and Gotta Eat, these songs are tunes I am rarely in a mood to listen to.  The beats aren't all that catchy, or the lyrics don't suck me in like other songs might. 


With these 3 things, I still love The Cool and think it's a fantastic album, but F+L excels in all 3 of these categories in my opinion and is a true 5 star classic.  We'll see what happens with LASERS

This.
There is a bit too much of the album that I don't like.  While it excels in many aspects, there are certain things about it that make it feel off:  The production on "Gotta Eat" is screwy.  While I enjoy "Little Weapon" for the most part, I cringe everytime that hook comes alive; that hook is one of the worst I've heard.  Like you said overall, there are too many tracks that seem out of place and IMO, despite it being a "concept" type album, it is not cohesive at all; it's all over the place.

Don't crucify me though, because I still generally enjoy it and give it a 4/5.  I just can't call it a classic when I enjoy --for the most part-- his mixtapes over "The Cool".

 

[Quan292]

The Cool> Big Seans & Wale's career

Cmon both of them are decent. why cant you send your shots to the Flockas and lil b's of the world

 

[Wiz.]

The Coolest, Paris Tokyo, Superstar, Hip-Hop Saved My Life, Intruder Alert, Streets on Fire, Dumb it Down, Little Weapon, The Die, Put You on game, Fighters >>>>

 

[Quan292]

^add gold watch & hi definition to that and we have the same list

 

[Wiz.]

Actually, every song on that album >>>>

 

[2001]

Versa it seems like your statement is highly based of your individual feelings about the album. Which kind of takes away from the post because it seems like your trying to make a general assessment of it.

 

[Mulisha44]

the cool imo is a classic and was better than F&L and was a deeper album with more meaning

 

[Monkeyboy]

Some weeks its The Cool more others its Food & Liquor.
My taste changes according to how often I listen to an album during the week.

 

[RyRy]

put you on game swings it the cools way.

 

[Guest]

End of story. Go away if you don't think so.

When nearly three years after its release, not one person fully understands the entirety of The Cool, The Game, and The Streets, that's just amazing. Best concept album hands down, no question.

Plus Ridiculous lyricism and solid flow. Classic.

Classic? Yes.
Solid flow? Are you kidding?? Flow was ridiculous

The Cool flow/breath control >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F&L flow/breath control
The poor breath control is the only shortcoming on F&L

Both are classics. I need to re-listen to The Cool to judge between the two, though.

 

[ryansn]

Why is there 3 pages of arguing over which Lupe album is better. They're both extremely complex, well crafted, lyrically gifted albums.

 

[Versa]

Versa it seems like your statement is highly based of your individual feelings about the album. Which kind of takes away from the post because it seems like your trying to make a general assessment of it.

Lol, what else would my post be based off of?  Every one hears music different and values different aspects of it more than others.  Not trying to be jerk, but what exactly do you expect of someone giving their take on an album?

The album is good, but not a classic in my opinion, and I'm a gigantic Lupe fan.  Just keeping it real.  It's not as fun of a listen as F+L.  The songs aren't as appealing and I don't like the production as much.

 

[Jayvin]

Why is there 3 pages of arguing over which Lupe album is better. They're both extremely complex, well crafted, lyrically gifted albums.

because people have opinions

 

[Versa]

and Lupe's breath control was definitely way better on The Cool.  Breath control was the only thing that kinda hurt F+L a little bit, but only for a like one or two songs.  For example., Lupe's breath control on Hurt Me Soul is painful at times once someone pointed it out to me.  However, the song is so beautifully crafted from the lyrics to the hook to the beat that the weird gasping noises don't really take away from it.  In fact, I'd say it kinda adds to it.

Flow wise it's a tie IMO.  Lupe's flow is incredible on both.