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Doing this on Stuido Leaks, so there are a couple context things that might not make sense such as references to other posters, etc. Everything should be clear though. First five are here. Gonna get called a hater by some, but I think it's pretty objective :shrugs:
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Slim Shady LP
First of all, a note on my ratings: I tend to rate things low. My ratings of Eminem's and Kanye West's albums in the other thread were an attempt to be relatively comparable to the other posters. By my ACTUAL rating system, no album including Illmatic would actually be a perfect 10.0. So keep that in mind before people get up in arms about Em's albums being 'underrated.'
My Name Is:
It's not lost on my how incredibly ballsy it was to release this as a single. White rappers in the upper rungs of the mainstream were a preposterously high-risk commodity, and while this song was always destined to be a commercial juggernaut (with the pop culture references, shock value, and most importantly the Dr. Dre co-sign), but it ran the risk of casting Eminem as a gimmick. The safer choice would have been to push a mid-charting single with a reasonably catchy hook that showcased a capable emcee, but that's never been Eminem as an artist. In any event, this did what it was supposed to do, especially when it became apparent that Eminem knew how to rap and wasn't making one-off gimmick singles. The song has endless quotables in the tone it's going for, and while it's not really my thing, it's supposed to serve as an introduction to a shock rapper AND get spins on MTV, and I think he toed that line pretty well. The "thanks for the support, asshole" line is both hilarious and casts him as an effective anti-hero. That said, the song definitely drags in the third verse and is pretty sophomoric in hindsight. While the rapping isn't as technically good as most of the other songs on here, it's more deliberately crafted and ultimately memorable. 7.5/10
Guilty Conscience
First of all, the framing of this song couldn't have been more awkwardly framed. Think "22 Twos" times a million. It just…it's so incredibly fucking awful, I want to kill myself while listening to it. This seems like an overreaction, but the song kinda hinges on the format. Now, it should be noted that this is one of the best Dr. Dre performances ever. While the song's called Guilty Conscience, it should really be Bad Influence or something, seeing as there aren't really ethical questions, Em is just telling the character the worse possible thing, lol. Also, they're such EASY situations to write about. I'm not trying to be over-critical here, but I know this sounds heretical: the first two verses really, really bore me. Nevertheless, the third verse works a lot better, especially when Em's taunting Dre. Then Dre's reversal works well. It's a good concept that was almost a total failure, but it's salvaged. 7/10
Brain Damage
Now, WPG is gonna admit that this is a great examples of multis sounding (mostly) natural and not detracting from the narrative or lyricism. It's a good origin story for the Slim Shady character. It's pretty tightly written on a line-by-line basis, but might be a little sprawling in a broader sense. I can't decide if I love the beat or if I'm indifferent to it. If this song comes on shuffle it's kind of a tossup as to whether or not it's going to hold my attention, but when i'm in the mood for it there isn't a lot to criticize. 7/10
If I Had
When Eminem's talking on the intro, I picture a cringe-inducing wigger in a do-rag trying to bum cigarettes in exchange for 'wisdom' he's dispensing. It's pretty impressive that the song turns around and ends up being classic. My friends, at least the ones who don't write, are usually surprised that I like this song because they think the repetitive phrasing should detract from the song's value. In reality, the opposite is true - the fact that he tied one hand behind his back on the first half of every bar and listed a bunch of things that are thematically relevant, don't sound forced, AND RHYME is just great to me. Add on the fact that it's emotionally resonant and it's just a classic. Sidenote - Dre's clout can't be overlooked, as Em wouldn't have been put on or taken seriously without him, but this is the best beat on the album. 10/10
'97 Bonnie and Clyde
This is cheap and gimmicky. Sorry. I know it's supposed to make me uncomfortable, but it just makes me want the song to be over. The premise is okay, but the second verse is literally the narrative standing still and the song falling apart. Wouldn't it be cool to hear a rapper who wants to kill his ex-wife explain those emotions to his daughter in a sanitized way? That's a GREAT song. This song is flat, obvious and pandering. It tries to be shocking at the expense of being compelling and isn't even really that shocking. It's not even 'just there' like some songs are, it drags down the album. It's not made without any creative thought, but it's a throwaway that never should have left the cutting room floor. 4.5/10
Role Model
Okay, this is what he should be doing on all the non-personal songs. He's angry, witty, shocking, dancing over the beat and in total control. Other than the 'sherbet' bar, I don't have a single complaint about this song. 9.5/10
My Fault
Jesus fuck. This song shouldn't work on any level, but it does because Em just raps the first verse (and to a lesser extent, the other two) so well. It's tight, rhymes well and don't really have any extraneous bars, or even words. I'd like to think this song is at least a little self-referential and ironic…I hope. The hook is fucking abhorrently awful, which keeps this song from being anything approaching great. The first verse is considerably better than the other two, but it's still good to have on here in some form. 6.5/10
Cum On Everybody
Is this song mocking itself or not? If it is, it's really good. If not, it still works. It shows he's at his best when not attempting any ambitions premise or concept. There's really nothing to analyze or stick with you, but it's capable and enjoyable. 7/10
Rock Bottom
Yeah, this is pretty great. The multis in the first verse actually detract from the emotional impact slightly on a couple of bars, but it's not big enough to really hinder the song. The funny thing about hearing the songs outside of the slim shady persona is that man…he sounds like a wigger, doesn't he? I don't say that to criticize him, either - I think he deserves all the credit in the world for sounding like he's trying to be someone he's not and still coming off as incredibly honest. I'm gonna give this the same score, but to be clear, I have it a notch behind If I Had. 10/10
Just Don't Give A Fuck
Am I gonna get run off the board if I say this song isn't really that enjoyable to me on any level? The beat is just noise, the hook is a caricature of itself to the point of hilarity and the verses are pedestrian versions of the more well-developed Slim Shady we see on Role Model. I guess this is the kind of thing you put on your album when you're making it 20 tracks if it's served you well in the past. I just can't really find much here. 5/10
As The World Turns
At this point in the album (only 46 minutes in - this is going to be a problem) the record feels like it's dragging a bit. Basically, I want either this OR Brain Damage on the album. Take your pick. They're the same thing for all intents and purposes. The first four bars of the second verse are enough to give this the edge to me. 7/10
I'm Shady
The first four bars of the second verse are evidence that writing airtight songs in the Slim Shady persona is unusual. That said, other than that section, this is one of my favorite things Eminem's ever done. It's also probably the best hook (derivative as it may be) on the album. I think this song is to me what Eminem was throughout the entirety of his first two albums for most people. 9/10
Bad Meets Evil
Holy SHIT are these two bad now. Like, if you listen to this song then the record they did together (WHICH HAS THE SAME NAME), it's like you're listening to completely different artists. Remember how the other collab track on this album had a poor framing device? This one works perfectly. I have nothing negative to say about this. 9.5/10
Still Don't Give A Fuck
I wish the entire song (or album, if we're being idealistic) was as good as the first verse. I kind of lose interest after that, and the hook is once again pretty 'I'm-an-angsty-14-year-old' but it kind of works. It just feels like he latches onto a certain mood for some of these songs then feels obligated to finish the track. 8/10
This averages out to 7.6, which I would round down to 7.5 because of the inane skits, bizarrely long outros and general feeling of heaviness and unnecessary length. Still, an impressive debut that showed a lot of skill.
grab your monopoly boards
Slim Shady LP
First of all, a note on my ratings: I tend to rate things low. My ratings of Eminem's and Kanye West's albums in the other thread were an attempt to be relatively comparable to the other posters. By my ACTUAL rating system, no album including Illmatic would actually be a perfect 10.0. So keep that in mind before people get up in arms about Em's albums being 'underrated.'
My Name Is:
It's not lost on my how incredibly ballsy it was to release this as a single. White rappers in the upper rungs of the mainstream were a preposterously high-risk commodity, and while this song was always destined to be a commercial juggernaut (with the pop culture references, shock value, and most importantly the Dr. Dre co-sign), but it ran the risk of casting Eminem as a gimmick. The safer choice would have been to push a mid-charting single with a reasonably catchy hook that showcased a capable emcee, but that's never been Eminem as an artist. In any event, this did what it was supposed to do, especially when it became apparent that Eminem knew how to rap and wasn't making one-off gimmick singles. The song has endless quotables in the tone it's going for, and while it's not really my thing, it's supposed to serve as an introduction to a shock rapper AND get spins on MTV, and I think he toed that line pretty well. The "thanks for the support, asshole" line is both hilarious and casts him as an effective anti-hero. That said, the song definitely drags in the third verse and is pretty sophomoric in hindsight. While the rapping isn't as technically good as most of the other songs on here, it's more deliberately crafted and ultimately memorable. 7.5/10
Guilty Conscience
First of all, the framing of this song couldn't have been more awkwardly framed. Think "22 Twos" times a million. It just…it's so incredibly fucking awful, I want to kill myself while listening to it. This seems like an overreaction, but the song kinda hinges on the format. Now, it should be noted that this is one of the best Dr. Dre performances ever. While the song's called Guilty Conscience, it should really be Bad Influence or something, seeing as there aren't really ethical questions, Em is just telling the character the worse possible thing, lol. Also, they're such EASY situations to write about. I'm not trying to be over-critical here, but I know this sounds heretical: the first two verses really, really bore me. Nevertheless, the third verse works a lot better, especially when Em's taunting Dre. Then Dre's reversal works well. It's a good concept that was almost a total failure, but it's salvaged. 7/10
Brain Damage
Now, WPG is gonna admit that this is a great examples of multis sounding (mostly) natural and not detracting from the narrative or lyricism. It's a good origin story for the Slim Shady character. It's pretty tightly written on a line-by-line basis, but might be a little sprawling in a broader sense. I can't decide if I love the beat or if I'm indifferent to it. If this song comes on shuffle it's kind of a tossup as to whether or not it's going to hold my attention, but when i'm in the mood for it there isn't a lot to criticize. 7/10
If I Had
When Eminem's talking on the intro, I picture a cringe-inducing wigger in a do-rag trying to bum cigarettes in exchange for 'wisdom' he's dispensing. It's pretty impressive that the song turns around and ends up being classic. My friends, at least the ones who don't write, are usually surprised that I like this song because they think the repetitive phrasing should detract from the song's value. In reality, the opposite is true - the fact that he tied one hand behind his back on the first half of every bar and listed a bunch of things that are thematically relevant, don't sound forced, AND RHYME is just great to me. Add on the fact that it's emotionally resonant and it's just a classic. Sidenote - Dre's clout can't be overlooked, as Em wouldn't have been put on or taken seriously without him, but this is the best beat on the album. 10/10
'97 Bonnie and Clyde
This is cheap and gimmicky. Sorry. I know it's supposed to make me uncomfortable, but it just makes me want the song to be over. The premise is okay, but the second verse is literally the narrative standing still and the song falling apart. Wouldn't it be cool to hear a rapper who wants to kill his ex-wife explain those emotions to his daughter in a sanitized way? That's a GREAT song. This song is flat, obvious and pandering. It tries to be shocking at the expense of being compelling and isn't even really that shocking. It's not even 'just there' like some songs are, it drags down the album. It's not made without any creative thought, but it's a throwaway that never should have left the cutting room floor. 4.5/10
Role Model
Okay, this is what he should be doing on all the non-personal songs. He's angry, witty, shocking, dancing over the beat and in total control. Other than the 'sherbet' bar, I don't have a single complaint about this song. 9.5/10
My Fault
Jesus fuck. This song shouldn't work on any level, but it does because Em just raps the first verse (and to a lesser extent, the other two) so well. It's tight, rhymes well and don't really have any extraneous bars, or even words. I'd like to think this song is at least a little self-referential and ironic…I hope. The hook is fucking abhorrently awful, which keeps this song from being anything approaching great. The first verse is considerably better than the other two, but it's still good to have on here in some form. 6.5/10
Cum On Everybody
Is this song mocking itself or not? If it is, it's really good. If not, it still works. It shows he's at his best when not attempting any ambitions premise or concept. There's really nothing to analyze or stick with you, but it's capable and enjoyable. 7/10
Rock Bottom
Yeah, this is pretty great. The multis in the first verse actually detract from the emotional impact slightly on a couple of bars, but it's not big enough to really hinder the song. The funny thing about hearing the songs outside of the slim shady persona is that man…he sounds like a wigger, doesn't he? I don't say that to criticize him, either - I think he deserves all the credit in the world for sounding like he's trying to be someone he's not and still coming off as incredibly honest. I'm gonna give this the same score, but to be clear, I have it a notch behind If I Had. 10/10
Just Don't Give A Fuck
Am I gonna get run off the board if I say this song isn't really that enjoyable to me on any level? The beat is just noise, the hook is a caricature of itself to the point of hilarity and the verses are pedestrian versions of the more well-developed Slim Shady we see on Role Model. I guess this is the kind of thing you put on your album when you're making it 20 tracks if it's served you well in the past. I just can't really find much here. 5/10
As The World Turns
At this point in the album (only 46 minutes in - this is going to be a problem) the record feels like it's dragging a bit. Basically, I want either this OR Brain Damage on the album. Take your pick. They're the same thing for all intents and purposes. The first four bars of the second verse are enough to give this the edge to me. 7/10
I'm Shady
The first four bars of the second verse are evidence that writing airtight songs in the Slim Shady persona is unusual. That said, other than that section, this is one of my favorite things Eminem's ever done. It's also probably the best hook (derivative as it may be) on the album. I think this song is to me what Eminem was throughout the entirety of his first two albums for most people. 9/10
Bad Meets Evil
Holy SHIT are these two bad now. Like, if you listen to this song then the record they did together (WHICH HAS THE SAME NAME), it's like you're listening to completely different artists. Remember how the other collab track on this album had a poor framing device? This one works perfectly. I have nothing negative to say about this. 9.5/10
Still Don't Give A Fuck
I wish the entire song (or album, if we're being idealistic) was as good as the first verse. I kind of lose interest after that, and the hook is once again pretty 'I'm-an-angsty-14-year-old' but it kind of works. It just feels like he latches onto a certain mood for some of these songs then feels obligated to finish the track. 8/10
This averages out to 7.6, which I would round down to 7.5 because of the inane skits, bizarrely long outros and general feeling of heaviness and unnecessary length. Still, an impressive debut that showed a lot of skill.