Production Vs Beatmaking

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philippe

Discussion Starter · Mar 23, 2012

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRODUCTION AND BEAT MAKING LADIES AND GENTS....

Quincy Jones...

He didn't play every instrument on this. So just because he only played 1, or 2 does that means he didn't produce this?

Kanye West...

Yep this is Produced By RZA, No-I.D., Mike Dean & Jeff Bhasker, since Kanye didn't sit in front of Pro Tools or his MPC and sequence everything he didn't make this beat. Kanye looses credibility as the GOAT blahblahblah...... if you think this.

Production is pretty much in shorter terms, piecing together the song/final product. Quincy Jones & Kanye both do it, shit Dr. Dre and a lot of others do it. I don't see people bitching when it comes to other producers, but in the genre of Hip-Hop it's a big deal for some reason. Bringing in other people to help create a song is NOT a bad thing people.

Linear notes for a Quincy Jones track will just show Drums played by _____, Saxaphone played by _____, Keyboards played by ______ and etc. etc. Kanye West just puts Co-Produced by whoever the fuck and Mike Dean & Jeff Bhasker because that's how it goes. If you actually a know a thing or 2 about Kanye, you should know he used to ghost produce (aka do what Mike Dean does WITHOUT any credit at all) So Kanye is actually being cool by throwing there names out there. I mean for christ sake we have a Mike Dean face as a smiley on this website. lol. The traditional idea of production should not be shunned in hip-hop. I embrace it.

and most importantly........

GET OVER IT KTT.

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philippe

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 23, 2012

dani_46 said:
Yep I agree, Kanye is a great beatmaker but he is also a great producer

And I got the perfect example for the people to understand how a producer works

He doesn't even touch the keys lol but that's the way it is, he got the idea and the melody in his head

@ this post and this vid.

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philippe

Discussion Starter · #15 · Mar 24, 2012

Al on the Keys said:
Quincy Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kanye....

He was just the first person I thought of. And I agree with this too btw.

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philippe

Discussion Starter · #16 · Mar 24, 2012

Alixander said:
Quality thread.

thanks

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philippe

Discussion Starter · #20 · Mar 25, 2012

Alex Tha Kidd said:
This was needed.

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philippe

Discussion Starter · #29 · Mar 25, 2012

TheDanGarcia said:
Not gonna credit RZA, the main producer of the song, or did i miss something? lol

i fudged up lmao

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philippe

Discussion Starter · #30 · Mar 25, 2012

TheDanGarcia said:
In terms of just the production and instrumentation (not saying the song is better or anything else is better), but just in terms of that, I think All of the Lights is better than Thriller. Just saying. And I know it wasn't all Ye in AOTL.

Kanye didn't play every instrument or maybe didn't sequence it all. But it was all Ye, his melody, his idea, his song. his royalty check lol.

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philippe

Discussion Starter · #44 · Aug 31, 2013

cla$$ic thread by ya bwoi.

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philippe

Discussion Starter · #46 · Aug 31, 2013

JayP. said:
Good bump. This section needed this recently.

And why do you say that?

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