Tito. said:Well duh Manning is a better QB than Brady. Far better.
It's just that anyone smart would take Brady over Manning when the most important games come down to the line. Peyton is a below average playoff QB.
Tito. said:Are you saying Tom Brady isn't clutch because his 18-0 New England Patriots team (best record in NFL history btw) didn't win 19 games?
***** thats quite on topic. Brady wasnt too clutch against the Ravens now was he..Tito. said:That has nothing to do with anything. Get on topic, please.
Tito. said:Bigblack. Do you realize that Tom Brady has three Super Bowl rings, each of which were won by three points, the second best playoff record of all-time, and the most comeback victories for a quarterback in NFL history?
Peyton Manning has an 8-8 playoff record and it's a day for celebration if they make it out of the first game.
Are you saying Tom Brady isn't clutch because his 18-0 New England Patriots team (best record in NFL history btw) didn't win 19 games?
No it's not. What do the Patriots losing to the Ravens have to do with anything. Didn't the Buccaneers beat the Saints last year (yes, it was legit)?
So the '09 Bucs are more clutch than the '09 Saints? Fuck out of here. Next.
Tito. said:No it's not. What do the Patriots losing to the Ravens have to do with anything. Didn't the Buccaneers beat the Saints last year (yes, it was legit)?
So the '09 Bucs are more clutch than the '09 Saints? Fuck out of here. Next.
Tito. said:And look who put him in position to score those field goals. Tom Brady. Who didn't? Peyton Manning.
Excuses, excuses. You know the Colts have Adam Vinatieri now so what's the excuse there? They've had him for four years.
Look. I'm going to make this simple.
Tom Brady has three Super Bowl championships, the second best playoff record of all-time, an 18-1 football team which is the most wins in a single season, and the most comeback victories ever...and you're trying to tell me Peyton Manning is more clutch because he won three games in the Playoffs once in his entire career?
You know, I think I'm gonna go to the Kanye Section so I can talk to more "intelligent" people.
Tito. said:Correct me if I'm wrong, Art--Tom Brady has like 14 playoff victories to four losses. Three Super Bowls, one loss. Peyton Manning is 8-8. Two Super Bowls, one loss.
And you're trying to tell be that Manning is more clutch because of all of the playoff appearances Brady has, he didn't make it out of the Wildcard once? Sigh.
And Peyton lost in the Super Bowl because he threw a game-losing interception. Which Tom Brady has never thrown in a Super Bowl game before.
Tito. said:Well, if the Patriots hadn't scored 24 points, the Eagles prob. would've beat the Patriots in Super Bowl XXXIX.
And if Tom Brady broke his leg vs. the Rams in that first Super Bowl, the Rams probably would've beaten the Patriots.
Versus Carolina, maybe if a meteor came down and blew up everybody on the Patriots sideline, Carolina might've beaten New England. Maybe.
And if all that happened, Peyton Manning would be more clutch than Tom Brady.
If, if, if, maybe, maybe, maybe, coulda, shoulda, woulda. Let's get back to talking about who the most clutch quarterback is.
Tito. said:The sad thing is, despite bigblack calling me a Brady fan, I hate Brady, and I think Peyton Manning is a far better quarterback.
Tito. said:Do you realize what the difference in our posts was?
Sure, Manning put them in position to win those games. Brady won those games.
Shit, I could put the Colts in position to win a game but if I don't do it then what's the point of bringing it up? I don't get you. One of the greatest football teams of all-time has an 8-8 playoff record and one Super Bowl victory in an entire decade? That doesn't add up at all.
Tito. said:I didn't mention any Peyton mistake in my post. Manning has one of the greatest teams of all-time. If you can annually win 12+ games in the regular season with a terrible defense, I don't see how that defense becomes an excuse come playoff time. You should look up the definition of "insanity".
How does he break the record if Favre still holds them.
Vinatieri isn't a quarterback.
Next.
?Tito. said:Michael Jordan has 4520783279 game-winning shots.
I have one.
Who's more clutch?
Tito. said:?
Sigh. Do you think Fran Tarkenton and Jim Kelly were clutch QB's? Each of them led their teams to four Super Bowls.
Manning might have a "weak" defense (which I'm still questioning the legitimacy of that statement because defenses don't decide to suck as soon as Week 17 is over), but Brady's offense prior to 2007 was much weaker than the Colts Hall of Fame-stacked offense.
No matter which way you slice it, at the end of the day, Brady has 3 championships, the 2nd best playoff record ever, and the most comeback victories by a QB of all-time. It's not really because Brady plays for the "All-Madden" team you find on Create-A-Team.