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Is TPAB the most critic bait thing we've ever had in rap?

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I mean regardless of how good or bad it was (I didn't like it at all) but the content of it and what he's talking about is pure critic bait I mean he simply can't lose at the Grammys
 
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TPAB is by no means executed brilliantly (conceptually) and I can see why some people think it's critic bait. I also think it is sort of middle-brow. Implying a deeper message through it's concept and structure than what's there but I'm actually done with shitting on it. Let people love it and stop making these threads.
 
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ChiefSosa said:
eh critic/oscar bait isn't just the "message" or intellectualism of it tho. a lot of the time it's just consciously trying to be artsy or different, like Birdman (last year's Oscar winner) for example. Most of the movie is shot thru continuous shots where the cameras follow the actors from room to room, while the movie is simultaneously a commentary on the entertainment industry and actors in general, shit that a committee of people directly involved in the entertainment industry are obviously going to connect to, and be baited by. I dunno how much replay value or repeated watches would affect that, as with TPAB. The live instrumentation, heavy influence of jazz & funk, spoken word & poem interludes, and more on top of themes of depression and politics all screams "look at me I'm artsy and different!!! in the same way that atypical camera styles and self-reflective looks into the entertainment industry does in movies like Birdman. Those are really the tactics that bait critics, and they're not reserved just for movies IMO.
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ChiefSosa said:
The live instrumentation, heavy influence of jazz & funk, spoken word & poem interludes, and more on top of themes of depression and politics all screams "look at me I'm artsy and different!!!
Definitely agree with the spoken word poem stuff, and the interview at the end was pretty bad too. Just came off as forced and trying way too hard to be highly intellectual. In the end, it all just seemed pretentious.
 
#191 ·
Bryson Ellegard said:
why are you under the impression The Grammy's care what critics have to say? you talking like they ain't give macklemore a Grammy... or routinely Deny Ye AOTY

The Grammy's are irrelevant, their metric for what's "good" is through a White persons lens.
Either way I feel it's critic bait, not that necessarily that's a bad thing, and this is not hating in the slightest
 
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Dayviz said:
I said the content and what he's talking about
How is that critic bait though, and is it a bad thing?

That's what I don't get. If you are referring to the racial awareness of the album, most albums in Rap like that don't get much praise as this did. Plus, not every single thing about the album dealt with racism. It's broader than that tbh.
 
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Water Giver said:
How is that critic bait though, and is it a bad thing?

That's what I don't get. If you are referring to the racial awareness of the album, most albums in Rap like that don't get much praise as this did. Plus, not every single thing about the album dealt with racism. It's broader than that tbh.
Lol doesn't get praise this is regarded as the best rap album oat lmao
 
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Dayviz said:
Lol doesn't get praise this is regarded as the best rap album oat lmao
Did you not see where i said other albums that have similar subject matter doesn't get as much praise as this did?
Water Giver said:
If you are referring to the racial awareness of the album, most albums in Rap like that don't get much praise as this did
Still don't know why some people claim it's critic bait or how it's bad to have good reviews.
 
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