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Is TPAB the most critic bait thing we've ever had in rap?

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I mean regardless of how good or bad it was (I didn't like it at all) but the content of it and what he's talking about is pure critic bait I mean he simply can't lose at the Grammys
 
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eh critic/oscar bait isn't just the "message" or intellectualism of it tho. a lot of the time it's just consciously trying to be artsy or different, like Birdman (last year's Oscar winner) for example. Most of the movie is shot thru continuous shots where the cameras follow the actors from room to room, while the movie is simultaneously a commentary on the entertainment industry and actors in general, shit that a committee of people directly involved in the entertainment industry are obviously going to connect to, and be baited by. I dunno how much replay value or repeated watches would affect that, as with TPAB. The live instrumentation, heavy influence of jazz & funk, spoken word & poem interludes, and more on top of themes of depression and politics all screams "look at me I'm artsy and different!!! in the same way that atypical camera styles and self-reflective looks into the entertainment industry does in movies like Birdman. Those are really the tactics that bait critics, and they're not reserved just for movies IMO.
 
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ChiefSosa said:
eh critic/oscar bait isn't just the "message" or intellectualism of it tho. a lot of the time it's just consciously trying to be artsy or different, like Birdman (last year's Oscar winner) for example. Most of the movie is shot thru continuous shots where the cameras follow the actors from room to room, while the movie is simultaneously a commentary on the entertainment industry and actors in general, shit that a committee of people directly involved in the entertainment industry are obviously going to connect to, and be baited by. I dunno how much replay value or repeated watches would affect that, as with TPAB. The live instrumentation, heavy influence of jazz & funk, spoken word & poem interludes, and more on top of themes of depression and politics all screams "look at me I'm artsy and different!!! in the same way that atypical camera styles and self-reflective looks into the entertainment industry does in movies like Birdman. Those are really the tactics that bait critics, and they're not reserved just for movies IMO.
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#108 ·
ian said:
How these Kendrick shots
They're clear references and they're known to have a beef.

Drake saying he doesn't need to dream about money trees like Kendrick because he already got that shit in his backyard.

And saying pussy isn't something special to him so he doesn't have to treasure it like Kendrick with his line from BDKMV.

They're somewhat common lines but I think it's pretty obvious that they were meant for someone. Drake was dissing pretty much everyone who ever came at him on the tape.

 
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ChiefSosa said:
eh critic/oscar bait isn't just the "message" or intellectualism of it tho. a lot of the time it's just consciously trying to be artsy or different, like Birdman (last year's Oscar winner) for example. Most of the movie is shot thru continuous shots where the cameras follow the actors from room to room, while the movie is simultaneously a commentary on the entertainment industry and actors in general, shit that a committee of people directly involved in the entertainment industry are obviously going to connect to, and be baited by. I dunno how much replay value or repeated watches would affect that, as with TPAB. The live instrumentation, heavy influence of jazz & funk, spoken word & poem interludes, and more on top of themes of depression and politics all screams "look at me I'm artsy and different!!! in the same way that atypical camera styles and self-reflective looks into the entertainment industry does in movies like Birdman. Those are really the tactics that bait critics, and they're not reserved just for movies IMO.
ok i kinda feel you on this
 
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WindowPain said:
They're clear references and they're known to have a beef.

Drake saying he doesn't need to dream about money trees like Kendrick because he already got that shit in his backyard.

And saying pussy isn't something special to him so he doesn't have to treasure it like Kendrick with his line from BDKMV.

They're somewhat common lines but I think it's pretty obvious that they were meant for someone. Drake was dissing pretty much everyone who ever came at him on the tape.

Oh shit I forgot about "Money Trees" :koolaid:

 
#112 ·
WindowPain said:
They're clear references and they're known to have a beef.

Drake saying he doesn't need to dream about money trees like Kendrick because he already got that shit in his backyard.

And saying pussy isn't something special to him so he doesn't have to treasure it like Kendrick with his line from BDKMV.

They're somewhat common lines but I think it's pretty obvious that they were meant for someone. Drake was dissing pretty much everyone who ever came at him on the tape.
Would explain the name of the tape even tho I kinda disagree
 
#114 ·
WindowPain said:
"I got a backyard where the money seems to come from trees"

"They gonna say your name on them airwaves..."

His line about the matrix on 6 man some people also think could be a sub.

"Shut the fuck up, text from a centerfold, I ain't reply / Let her know I read it though / Voice mail say she ready though / ****** know I'm credible, ain't no pussy on a pedestal"

He been goading Kendrick for a while.
The spaghetti line in stay schemin makes no sense tho
 
#115 ·
It kinda is critic bait but not intentionally but I always thought Ellen when she hosted the Academy awards had a point when she said 12 years a slave wasn't gonna not win because if it did there would have been controversy.

Same thing with TPAB it's great but part of me wonders if it's reviews are based on merit or just people tryna dickride because there have been better done albums on the same subjects and the reason kenny gettin props imo is because he came in at the right time during all this tension.
 
#116 ·
:khaled: u think king junta ghostwriter line was aimed at drake?
WindowPain said:
They're clear references and they're known to have a beef.

Drake saying he doesn't need to dream about money trees like Kendrick because he already got that shit in his backyard.

And saying pussy isn't something special to him so he doesn't have to treasure it like Kendrick with his line from BDKMV.

They're somewhat common lines but I think it's pretty obvious that they were meant for someone. Drake was dissing pretty much everyone who ever came at him on the tape.
 
#125 ·
ChiefSosa said:
eh critic/oscar bait isn't just the "message" or intellectualism of it tho. a lot of the time it's just consciously trying to be artsy or different, like Birdman (last year's Oscar winner) for example. Most of the movie is shot thru continuous shots where the cameras follow the actors from room to room, while the movie is simultaneously a commentary on the entertainment industry and actors in general, shit that a committee of people directly involved in the entertainment industry are obviously going to connect to, and be baited by. I dunno how much replay value or repeated watches would affect that, as with TPAB. The live instrumentation, heavy influence of jazz & funk, spoken word & poem interludes, and more on top of themes of depression and politics all screams "look at me I'm artsy and different!!! in the same way that atypical camera styles and self-reflective looks into the entertainment industry does in movies like Birdman. Those are really the tactics that bait critics, and they're not reserved just for movies IMO.
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