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is krit a producer or a beat maker? idk
 
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I remember an interview where DJ Premier said that he doesn't just only make a beat then sell it...he overlooks the track, sometimes gives the Emcee advice when spitting over the track, etc.

I guess a producer actually produces (has a hand with not only the beat but also the overall track)
A beat maker simply makes a beat then just sells it? :dno:
 

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LiftthatALLLNight said:
I remember an interview where DJ Premier said that he doesn't just only make a beat then sell it...he overlooks the track, sometimes gives the Emcee advice when spitting over the track, etc.

I guess a producer actually produces (has a hand with not only the beat but also the overall track)
A beat maker simply makes a beat then just sells it? :dno:
Pretty much this. The producer arranges shit too. Has a hand in certain aspects.

A beat maker would be like Kane Beatz or something.
 

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TD Cruze said:
Basically the same, for all intents and purposes. Just depends who you're asking.
not at all

these days someone like dre or kanye isn't a beatmaker, they're a producer

they more direct the actual musicians (not to say that kanye isn't a musician) in the studio rather then go hands on themselves for each and every aspect
 

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Hit Boy

#JayZInterview :smug:

But a producer usually has the big stick in leading the artist to how the producer wanted the direction of the track
 

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For hip hop, they're pretty much the same, but in pretty much every other genre, no.
 

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Here's the thing: people who simply say "yes" are being pedantic and people who simply say "no" aren't looking at the whole picture. 

The easiest way to look at it is this: the terms are used interchangeably, both colloquially and legally, at least in hip hop.  If you make the beat and sell it and never show up in the studio, you still get the 'produced by' credit.  However, there are things you can do (arrangement, directing studio musicians, or the intangible shit that gets Dre credit nowadays), that get you 'additional production by' credit without making the beat.

In short, if you make a beat you're the producer.  You can get an extra production credit without making a beat. At the end of the day, the guy who makes the beat is never NOT the top credited producer.
 

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neph27 said:
not at all

these days someone like dre or kanye isn't a beatmaker, they're a producer

they more direct the actual musicians (not to say that kanye isn't a musician) in the studio rather then go hands on themselves for each and every aspect
So back in 2004 Kanye wasn't a "producer"? :cmon:

In Hip-Hop, basically anyone who creates/works on the instrumental portion of a track is considered a producer.
 

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TD Cruze said:
So back in 2004 Kanye wasn't a "producer"? :cmon:

In Hip-Hop, basically anyone who creates/works on the instrumental portion of a track is considered a producer.
back in 2004 kanye was a beatmaker

he's a producer now


Produced by Kanye West
Co-produced by Jeff Bhasker
Recorded by Andrew Dawson, Anthony Kilhoffer, and Mike Dean
Mixed by Anthony Kilhoffer
Assistant engineers: Christian Mochizuki, Pete Bischoff and Phil Joly
Keyboards: Jeff Bhasker and Mike Dean
Piano: Elton John
Brass and woodwinds: Danny Flam, Tony Gorruso, and Ken Lewis
Horn arrangements: Ken Lewis
Engineered by Brent Kolatalo
Orchestral arranger and conductor: Rosie Danvers
Trumpets: Mike Lovatt, Simon Finch, Andy Gathercole
French horns: Tim Anderson, Tom Rumsby, Richard Ashton
Trombone: Mark Frost, Philip Judge
Flute: Chloe Vincent
Violins: Kotono Sato, Jenny Sacha
Viola: Rachel Robson
Cello: Rosie Danvers, Chris "Hitchcock" Chorney
Cello arrangement: Mike Dean
Additional vocals: Rihanna, Kid Cudi, Tony Williams, The-Dream, Charlie Wilson, John Legend, Elly Jackson (of La Roux), Alicia Keys, Elton John, Fergie, Ryan Leslie, Drake, Alvin Fields, and Ken Lewis
 

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TD Cruze said:
Lol I think you have a different definition than most people. Ask anybody on here who Hit-Boy is and I guarantee they'll call him a producer.
that's fine but the point is that they're incorrect in their classification of hit boy as a producer

he's a beatmaker
 

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neph27 said:
that's fine but the point is that they're incorrect in their classification of hit boy as a producer

he's a beatmaker
No. He produces beats. Therefore, a producer. He's both.

What the other guy said really is right. They really are interchangeable. Though of course some producers have more of a hand in the track then just providing the beat, that isn't the line between them.
 
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