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...in my eyes. Although stuff does grow on me.

Graduation: Barry Bonds. Drunk and Hot Girls is pretty ok, but Barry Bonds is just a clunker for me. And even if you want to argue that it isn't that bad, let's face it, Stronger, I Wonder, Flashing Lights...in another league. Now, I consider those three songs to be in his top ten, so I don't expect all top ten caliber songs, but every good song ranges from good-really good and is better. And I am not a fan of Good Night either, but I haven't really listened to it enough. There is a difference between a great song that doesn't appeal to me and a bad song that doesn't appeal to me. I think Barry Bonds falls into the latter category, and the majority of people I have heard don't like it.

808s: This is arguably his most consistent album, and I like every single track except...parts of Bad News. Just parts. The end >>> beginning. I just feel like every other song is more...ehh, beautiful? But besides that, it is a perfect album  :work:

LR and CD are tough because while some songs clearly stand out being better than others, I don't think there are really bad songs. I am not a fan of School Spirit and Graduation Day is more like a skit I guess. But I know these are liked/love, and majority opinion is relevant. I think the skits are funny, and actually better on CD...a debut album with his story, necessary to have the skits I think. And on LR I think they work too...these are pretty solid if you can forgive skits and some shorter songs that are kind of awkward for me personally.

So for MBDTF, I want basically every song to be good-masterpiece. I don't want any one song to stick out as the sour thumb, the "ok" song...(I don't want to start the debate, but maybe it is necessary to mention...I fear "See Me Now"...then again I haven't heard it in a while). I don't want skits, I don't want remixes of songs unless they are bonus tracks (Diamonds). I want 18 all different great songs. Are my expectations disgustingly high? Absolutely.



 

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So for MBDTF, I want basically every song to be good-masterpiece. I don't want any one song to stick out as the sour thumb, the "ok" song...(I don't want to start the debate, but maybe it is necessary to mention...I fear "See Me Now"...then again I haven't heard it in a while). I don't want skits, I don't want remixes of songs unless they are bonus tracks (Diamonds). I want 18 all different great songs. Are my expectations disgustingly high? Absolutely.
Would be brilliant if every song was a masterpiece, but I dont think its actually possible, no matter what album you listen to there will always be that one song that you aren't sure about
 

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...in my eyes. Although stuff does grow on me.

Graduation: Barry Bonds. Drunk and Hot Girls is pretty ok, but Barry Bonds is just a clunker for me. And even if you want to argue that it isn't that bad, let's face it, Stronger, I Wonder, Flashing Lights...in another league. Now, I consider those three songs to be in his top ten, so I don't expect all top ten caliber songs, but every good song ranges from good-really good and is better. And I am not a fan of Good Night either, but I haven't really listened to it enough. There is a difference between a great song that doesn't appeal to me and a bad song that doesn't appeal to me. I think Barry Bonds falls into the latter category, and the majority of people I have heard don't like it.

808s: This is arguably his most consistent album, and I like every single track except...parts of Bad News. Just parts. The end >>> beginning. I just feel like every other song is more...ehh, beautiful? But besides that, it is a perfect album  :work:

LR and CD are tough because while some songs clearly stand out being better than others, I don't think there are really bad songs. I am not a fan of School Spirit and Graduation Day is more like a skit I guess. But I know these are liked/love, and majority opinion is relevant. I think the skits are funny, and actually better on CD...a debut album with his story, necessary to have the skits I think. And on LR I think they work too...these are pretty solid if you can forgive skits and some shorter songs that are kind of awkward for me personally.

So for MBDTF, I want basically every song to be good-masterpiece. I don't want any one song to stick out as the sour thumb, the "ok" song...(I don't want to start the debate, but maybe it is necessary to mention...I fear "See Me Now"...then again I haven't heard it in a while). I don't want skits, I don't want remixes of songs unless they are bonus tracks (Diamonds). I want 18 all different great songs. Are my expectations disgustingly high? Absolutely.
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Hell, even the Beatles had songs that were awful.
 

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most of his solo tracks like Chain Heavy, Mama's Boyfriend, DIAND are gonna be GREAT
the songs with 100 features might be average, bad, or just annoying that Kanye didnt just kill it by himself.
 

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AOTL ft Fergie
Honestly, Kanye is his biggest critic. So he wouldnt do something that sounds bad. Have you heard Meet Me Halfway, her voice is very enjoyable on that song so shes prob singing in the outro or something with te last hook on the song. He wouldnt do something that sounds bad. As for See Me Now that was unfinished, like done and put together over night. Im sure he will make it harmonize a lot more and cut out a shit load of the Charlie Wilson. But otherwise if the production is anywhere as close to dark like 808's with the lyrics we have heard so far, i will be pssssyychheeeeddddd  :allears:
 

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Interesting.

I happen to think Barry Bonds is one of Kanye's best, lyrically. (imo his funniest song).
 

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Guys, if you're worrying about Fergies voice, go on youtube and look up her singing Sweet Child o Mine with Slash, or listen to her Paradise City cover with Slash as well. She wastes her amazing voice with BEP.
 

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I used to skip the fuck out of tracks 6-8 on Graduation

Never felt Barry Bonds, or Drunk and Hot Girls... plus I played the shit out of CTMN before the album dropped
 

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Ya'll just don't understand Drunk and Hot Girls. That song is wayyyyyyyyyyyy underrated. I kinda agree with you on Barry Bonds in the sense that its not in the same league as Stronger, Flashing Lights, etc. but its still a good song. I dont skip it.
 

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most of his solo tracks like Chain Heavy, Mama's Boyfriend, DIAND are gonna be GREAT
the songs with 100 features might be average, bad, or just annoying that Kanye didnt just kill it by himself.
I've always felt that solo Kanye is always better. Though Pusha T on Runaway is dope.

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Interesting.

I happen to think Barry Bonds is one of Kanye's best, lyrically. (imo his funniest song).
Maybe I need to listen to it more...I just don't like the beat that much...it is a turn off as soon as it comes on for me.
 

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...in my eyes. Although stuff does grow on me.

Graduation: Barry Bonds. Drunk and Hot Girls is pretty ok, but Barry Bonds is just a clunker for me. And even if you want to argue that it isn't that bad, let's face it, Stronger, I Wonder, Flashing Lights...in another league. Now, I consider those three songs to be in his top ten, so I don't expect all top ten caliber songs, but every good song ranges from good-really good and is better. And I am not a fan of Good Night either, but I haven't really listened to it enough. There is a difference between a great song that doesn't appeal to me and a bad song that doesn't appeal to me. I think Barry Bonds falls into the latter category, and the majority of people I have heard don't like it.

808s: This is arguably his most consistent album, and I like every single track except...parts of Bad News. Just parts. The end >>> beginning. I just feel like every other song is more...ehh, beautiful? But besides that, it is a perfect album  :work:

LR and CD are tough because while some songs clearly stand out being better than others, I don't think there are really bad songs. I am not a fan of School Spirit and Graduation Day is more like a skit I guess. But I know these are liked/love, and majority opinion is relevant. I think the skits are funny, and actually better on CD...a debut album with his story, necessary to have the skits I think. And on LR I think they work too...these are pretty solid if you can forgive skits and some shorter songs that are kind of awkward for me personally.

So for MBDTF, I want basically every song to be good-masterpiece. I don't want any one song to stick out as the sour thumb, the "ok" song...(I don't want to start the debate, but maybe it is necessary to mention...I fear "See Me Now"...then again I haven't heard it in a while). I don't want skits, I don't want remixes of songs unless they are bonus tracks (Diamonds). I want 18 all different great songs. Are my expectations disgustingly high? Absolutely.
wtf Barry Bonds was awesome your mind is fucked up
 

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wtf Barry Bonds was awesome your mind is fucked up
Almost everyone I have heard in real life and on here would say it is the clunker on the album. And it is opinion. Yeesh.
 

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Ya'll just don't understand Drunk and Hot Girls. That song is wayyyyyyyyyyyy underrated. I kinda agree with you on Barry Bonds in the sense that its not in the same league as Stronger, Flashing Lights, etc. but its still a good song. I dont skip it.
Agreed. Drunk and Hot Girls is amazing and unnecessarily hated.

Best song on Graduation besides Stronger and I Wonder. Yes, I said it.

 
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Almost everyone I have heard in real life and on here would say it is the clunker on the album. And it is opinion. Yeesh.
Barry Bonds>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Drunken Hot Girls

Kanye killed Lil' Wayne on the song too....
 
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