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Just wondering if there is any experienced programmers on KTT who could give some advice/tips regarding programming.

Software Engineering is a post secondary field I'm strongly considering and want to start programming.

So any advice? Like, what languages to start with? Best tutorials/books?

I was thinking of starting with C++, Java, Python maybe? Is that not a good idea, too advanced to start with or what? I know languages aren't just a two week book think and your done, your always learning them, gaining more knowledge. I would just like to know where the best place to start for someone like me with 0 programming experience at this point. Anything would be appreciated..

also I think it would be cool to develop some Apps (ioS) /Flash/Indie Games, so any tips on that would be welcome!

Probably won't get any replies but o well!

Oh and if someone knows of a great programming forum/website that would be more helpful to me than KTT, feel free to share :)
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moneyman232 said:
In my opinion no, Javascript is I think the fourth language i had to become familiar with for work. If you have any basis in another high level language it's a breeze to learn. The good thing about something like Javascript is that the syntax and rules are extremely close to Java, so if you know one you already have an idea of how the other works.
you said its for websites, so I assume its blended in with with HTML & CSS?
Learn in this order OP

1. html / Css
2.javascript
3. php
4.sql or database language
5. c++
6.java


after that you can pretty much adapt to any language out there , it just becomes a syntax difference

i actually developed a CMS for a insurance company
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Chaval said:
you said its for websites, so I assume its blended in with with HTML & CSS?
Yea it is, generally Javascript ends up being the guts of a site if it's more complex than a basic site that just needs working links. Javascript is used alot in Forms, like sign up or anything else that might require an action to happen.

For example the sign up page for KTT probably uses Javascript to verify inputs match  or meet certain criteria. Where HTML/CSS would be the body, Javascript would be the Brain.
ZimmerMAN said:
Learn in this order OP

1. html / Css
2.javascript
3. php
4.sql or database language
5. c++
6.java


after that you can pretty much adapt to any language out there , it just becomes a syntax difference

i actually developed a CMS for a insurance company
That's an interesting order, i learned that almost in reverse, i found it to be easier to move from the harder languages (C++, Java) to a less powerful language.
moneyman232 said:
That's an interesting order, i learned that almost in reverse, i found it to be easier to move from the harder languages (C++, Java) to a less powerful language.

you can do that too but most people prefer to start basic. I guess just like making beats ( most start on FL and then move on too pro tools or ableton)
im in cs ap as a junior in hs. i suggest you start learning a major lang like java or c++ first. i started with java and just started learning a bit of c++ a few months ago and it was very easy to pick up. it helps to get that base and then you expand out further easily, digimsayin?
ZimmerMAN said:
Learn in this order OP

1. html / Css
2.javascript
3. php
4.sql or database language
5. c++
6.java


after that you can pretty much adapt to any language out there , it just becomes a syntax difference

i actually developed a CMS for a insurance company
I know some SQL

UPDATE [Guitars].[dbo].[Table_1.Customer]
SET CustomerName = 'Mike Dean'
WHERE CustomerID = 011
GO

or

SELECT *
FROM Guitars.dbo.[Table_1.Customer]

I had to do an assignment on a guitar shop for my SQL class
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moneyman232 said:
Yea it is, generally Javascript ends up being the guts of a site if it's more complex than a basic site that just needs working links. Javascript is used alot in Forms, like sign up or anything else that might require an action to happen.

For example the sign up page for KTT probably uses Javascript to verify inputs match  or meet certain criteria. Where HTML/CSS would be the body, Javascript would be the Brain.
hmmm sounds nice

I took an SQL class before I began with my Expression Web 3 class. Is javascript similar to the commands in sql?
Chaval said:
hmmm sounds nice

I took an SQL class before I began with my Expression Web 3 class. Is javascript similar to the commands in sql?
no

javascript runs on your browser
sql is a database

ZimmerMAN said:
no

javascript runs on your browser
sql is a database
so the scripting on each is completely different?
I can't believe the amount of CS classes you guys are taking in hs. All I had was html. I start my junior year in college next year and am going into management information systems. Im taking my first CS class next year.
jreed91 said:
I can't believe the amount of CS classes you guys are taking in hs. All I had was html. I start my junior year in college next year and am going into management information systems. Im taking my first CS class next year.
lol, im in my first year of college. Started last august
Chaval said:
so the scripting on each is completely different?
yes , alot different

like english to chinese
jreed91 said:
I can't believe the amount of CS classes you guys are taking in hs. All I had was html. I start my junior year in college next year and am going into management information systems. Im taking my first CS class next year.
this lol

my hs didnt even offer html
ZimmerMAN said:
yes , alot different

like english to chinese
:h5:
Chaval said:
hmmm sounds nice

I took an SQL class before I began with my Expression Web 3 class. Is javascript similar to the commands in sql?
Far from it actually...SQL is a relational language and until you get into nested queries is pretty simple. Doing an operation in Javascript similar to your SQL above would look completely different, hard to explain but once you start learning Javascript you'll see what im talking about right away.

jreed91 said:
I can't believe the amount of CS classes you guys are taking in hs. All I had was html. I start my junior year in college next year and am going into management information systems. Im taking my first CS class next year.
lol im a senior in college now, only thing even CS related i could take in HS was HTML as well. I wish i could have gotten ahead back in HS though
feels good to have gotten a big head start on programming in hs. i like it but im not really sure if this is what i want to go into
Aaronious said:
for Java, where do you learn it?
iTunes U has a programming methodology class that teaches java pretty well.
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