Any Programmers?

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Aaronious

Discussion Starter · Apr 13, 2012

Just wondering if there is any experienced programmers on KTT who could give some advice/tips regarding programming.

Software Engineering is a post secondary field I'm strongly considering and want to start programming.

So any advice? Like, what languages to start with? Best tutorials/books?

I was thinking of starting with C++, Java, Python maybe? Is that not a good idea, too advanced to start with or what? I know languages aren't just a two week book think and your done, your always learning them, gaining more knowledge. I would just like to know where the best place to start for someone like me with 0 programming experience at this point. Anything would be appreciated..

also I think it would be cool to develop some Apps (ioS) /Flash/Indie Games, so any tips on that would be welcome!

Probably won't get any replies but o well!

Oh and if someone knows of a great programming forum/website that would be more helpful to me than KTT, feel free to share

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moneyman232

· #6 · Apr 13, 2012

Start with C++, it's a good language to start with. Fortunately once you learn one high-level language it's very easy to learn others. Learn c++ and understand the concept of Object Oriented Programming, from there you can program apps using XCODE for IOS or Eclipse to program android applications in Java. I found it easier to pick up on the concepts of a language by learning c++ first then moving on to other languages.

And if you're looking into Web development then javascript is cool, not as complex as Java, but in my opinion its easier to start with a high level language and then learn scripting languages.

feel free to pm me and i'll see if i can find some good reference materials. After that it's all abou practice, come up with ideas and work from there.

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moneyman232

· #17 · Apr 13, 2012

Chaval said:
what is javascript about btw? I'll be taking it the class in a few months

It's a scripting language for Web, a tier below something like Java, but it can really expand what you can do with a website

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moneyman232

· #20 · Apr 13, 2012

Chaval said:
is it hard to learn?

In my opinion no, Javascript is I think the fourth language i had to become familiar with for work. If you have any basis in another high level language it's a breeze to learn. The good thing about something like Javascript is that the syntax and rules are extremely close to Java, so if you know one you already have an idea of how the other works.

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moneyman232

· #24 · Apr 13, 2012

Chaval said:
you said its for websites, so I assume its blended in with with HTML & CSS?

Yea it is, generally Javascript ends up being the guts of a site if it's more complex than a basic site that just needs working links. Javascript is used alot in Forms, like sign up or anything else that might require an action to happen.

For example the sign up page for KTT probably uses Javascript to verify inputs match or meet certain criteria. Where HTML/CSS would be the body, Javascript would be the Brain.

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moneyman232

· #25 · Apr 13, 2012

ZimmerMAN said:
Learn in this order OP

1. html / Css
2.javascript
3. php
4.sql or database language
5. c++
6.java

after that you can pretty much adapt to any language out there , it just becomes a syntax difference

i actually developed a CMS for a insurance company

That's an interesting order, i learned that almost in reverse, i found it to be easier to move from the harder languages (C++, Java) to a less powerful language.

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moneyman232

· #37 · Apr 13, 2012

Chaval said:
hmmm sounds nice

I took an SQL class before I began with my Expression Web 3 class. Is javascript similar to the commands in sql?

Far from it actually...SQL is a relational language and until you get into nested queries is pretty simple. Doing an operation in Javascript similar to your SQL above would look completely different, hard to explain but once you start learning Javascript you'll see what im talking about right away.

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moneyman232

· #38 · Apr 13, 2012

jreed91 said:
I can't believe the amount of CS classes you guys are taking in hs. All I had was html. I start my junior year in college next year and am going into management information systems. Im taking my first CS class next year.

lol im a senior in college now, only thing even CS related i could take in HS was HTML as well. I wish i could have gotten ahead back in HS though

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moneyman232

· #41 · Apr 13, 2012

Kanyiggga said:
feels good to have gotten a big head start on programming in hs. i like it but im not really sure if this is what i want to go into

What else are you looking into? Just curious...

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moneyman232

· #56 · Apr 13, 2012

Kanyiggga said:
engineering maybe. but i really dont know what i want to get into. i feel like i dont want to start focusing on one specific field

I'd say take a look around the different branches of engineering, especially the required courses, but whatever you choose you can feel good about it's a great market to be in after graduation

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moneyman232

· #58 · Apr 13, 2012

Chaval said:
alright, so to learn javascript its good to know HTML before hand?

Yea...or know enough that you can build a basic site, they work together, but you could technically build a site using something like dreamweaver and then fill in the gaps with javascript, so it's not required but it is a good idea to understand how everything meshes.

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moneyman232

· #62 · Apr 14, 2012

ZimmerMAN said:
and c++ will never die !!

Truth...it's the preferred language in the game industry, and in use plenty of other places

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