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33 RPM vinyl ?

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Barely used format
Worst sounding format



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All this should be taken on a case by case basis ofc, higher DR doesn't necessarily mean a more preferable master which at the end of the day is very subjective
CamYe said:
Jesus died at 33
he was also doing the laundry
PADYBU said:
There is the issue with the low end however it is more of an issue for poor turntables. The original pressing of The Bands s/t for example, had such a thick bottom and it did indeed cause the needle to jump on certain turntables but if you had a great TT it would play fine, I have a rip of the LP myself and It sounds better than any CD reissue or LP reissue I've heard, unfortunatley.聽 I have a bunch of well pressed LPs with fat kicks that sound better than their digital alts because of the higher dynamic range and more natural soundstage over headphones. It would be ideal if the digital releases were sure to have near the same dynamic range that the LP was cut from but unfortunatley thats not the case.
PADYBU said:
There is the issue with the low end however it is more of an issue for poor turntables. The original pressing of The Bands s/t for example, had such a thick bottom and it did indeed cause the needle to jump on certain turntables but if you had a great TT it would play fine, I have a rip of the LP myself and It sounds better than any CD reissue or LP reissue I've heard, unfortunatley.聽 I have a bunch of well pressed LPs with fat kicks that sound better than their digital alts because of the higher dynamic range and more natural soundstage over headphones. It would be ideal if the digital releases were sure to have near the same dynamic range that the LP was cut from but unfortunatley thats not the case.
not really that accurate although better turn tables help. I'm a mastering engineer at a well known studio in the UK and when we master for Vinyl it's a very different sounding project compared to digital or c.d. low end literally takes up to much energy/space on a vinyl
You can however compensate by having a very short album
G
thezucker said:
That's 33 shots from twin glocks :oh:
:dead:
levishouse said:
not really that accurate although better turn tables help. I'm a mastering engineer at a well known studio in the UK and when we master for Vinyl it's a very different sounding project compared to digital or c.d. low end literally takes up to much energy/space on a vinyl
what is it I said that isn't accurate?聽 Yes there are limitations and ofc it's a different sounding project, I wasn't claiming otherwise. My point is that from my years of comparing mediums I've seen both cases; an unnratural and "worse" sounding master from a vinyl compared to its digital alt and vice versa. I have vinyl rips of digitally sourced albums that I prefer over their alt, the main culprit usually being whoever loudly mastered the digital release. There's also the soundstage that can comes from vinyl, I usually prefer that presentation through headphones over a CDs unnatural sounding hard panning.

I've heard exceptions to the repeated rules, LPs with fuller sounding bass and clearer kicks than the digital, CDs with more noise than the LPs and the list goes on.聽 I'm against this idea that digital is always better because (A) or vinyl is always better because (B), these things should always be taken on a case by case basis.
PADYBU said:
what is it I said that isn't accurate?聽 Yes there are limitations and ofc it's a different sounding project, I wasn't claiming otherwise. My point is that from my years of comparing mediums I've seen both cases; an unnratural and "worse" sounding master from a vinyl compared to its digital alt and vice versa. I have vinyl rips of digitally sourced albums that I prefer over their alt, the main culprit usually being whoever loudly mastered the digital release. There's also the soundstage that can comes from vinyl, I usually prefer that presentation through headphones over a CDs unnatural sounding hard panning.

I've heard exceptions to the repeated rules, LPs with fuller sounding bass and clearer kicks than the digital, CDs with more noise than the LPs and the list goes on.聽 I'm against this idea that digital is always better because (A) or vinyl is always better because (B), these things should always be taken on a case by case basis.
definitely agree with most of this. I'm just saying the newer more 808 and kick driven tracks are generally going to sound super shit on vinyl tbh. Yes there are exceptions to records on vinyl having better sound low end but that probably has to do with the low end actually being mixed quieter in comparison to today's music and maybe some trickery to make you perceive said low end as louder/better when in reality it may be some engineering trickery
****** 馃挄 said:
doesnt matter to me
i dont open my vinyls lmao
This ***** pay for vinyls for fun :dw:
thezucker said:
That's 33 shots from twin glocks :oh:
****** 馃挄 said:
doesnt matter to me
i dont open my vinyls lmao
What鈥檚 the point of the debate? Plus 33Rpm is the most used vinyls format. And about the quality, everybody knows that the song is purest with Vinyls than CD, or numeric format
deej61 said:
Imagine caring what vinyls of digital music sound like lmaooooooooooooooooo
CamYe said:
Jesus died at 33
there's thirty-three shots
From twin glocks there's sixteen apiece
levishouse said:
The major factor in how vinyl sounds is bass. The more bass the worst it will sound on vinyl due to like 50hz and below being rolled off completely. If there was no roll off the needle would jump everywhere
It鈥檚 to do with the cutting head at the pressing plant where the records are made. When they make the laquer (the template of the vinyl) if the bass is too strong or loud it can break the cutting head
Franc0 said:
Not saying vinyl is the underused format
33 rpm vinyl was barely used even at vinyls peak popularity
And the slower the RPMs the worse the music
33 1/3 rpm is the most widely used format for vinyl records ever. Are you fucking dumb?
platinummaster said:
Can we guess the minimum album lenght by the vinyl format? Dont understand any of this shit about 33rpm and 45 rpm
Front and back for a 12", 33rpm record is about 40 minutes.
maff50 said:
It鈥檚 to do with the cutting head at the pressing plant where the records are made. When they make the laquer (the template of the vinyl) if the bass is too strong or loud it can break the cutting head
also true. If it does get pressed though you always run the risk of the needle jumping when there's heavy sections of bass. I can send master's off to get pressed with heavy bass and they will most of the time get pressed but if I haven't rolled the bass off that needle ain't gunna like it
jesus was nailed to the cross with 33 nails
jesus died at 33
jesus was reborn 3(3) days after his death

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