Kanye To The: Kanye West

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11x NBA Champion
2x NCAA Champion
5x NBA MVP
12x NBA All Star
1st black head coach in American professional sports
Dealt with pre-civil rights racism throughout his career

GOAT

11x NBA Champion
2x NCAA Champion
5x NBA MVP
12x NBA All Star
1st black head coach in American professional sports
Dealt with pre-civil rights racism throughout his career

GOAT

HE COACHED WHILE HE ****ING PLAYED! FIRST BLACK COACH WHILE HE PLAYED. 3 RINGS COACHING **** THATS IMPRESSIVE AF

joel anthony would've been GOAT in the 60s

This. **** the 60s that **** don't count. You can't convince me otherwise. There were 8 teams in the league. Not that hard to win multiple championships.

Best winner in the NBA.

MJ is the best everything else.

This. **** the 60s that **** don't count. You can't convince me otherwise. There were 8 teams in the league. Not that hard to win multiple championships.

less teams means tougher teams to beat since the best basketball players in the world are spread among 8 teams >.>. NBA has gotten weaker not better. Hall of famers from the 60s would dominate today's watered down nba

less teams means tougher teams to beat since the best basketball players in the world are spread among 8 teams >.>. NBA has gotten weaker not better. Hall of famers from the 60s would dominate today's watered down nba

lol...no.

You're right in that the 60s weren't as "primitive" as people try to make them seem.

But dominate today's NBA? No.

lol...no.

You're right in that the 60s weren't as "primitive" as people try to make them seem.

But dominate today's NBA? No.

gametape watch it, centers today are a joke compared to centers back in the 60s. You seriously think bill russell who used to shut down wilt chamberlain would not utterly dominate in an nba where talent for centers has gone since the 80s and 90s

I feel the same way. His feats are insane. What he did in his time period, no one else has matched in their time period including michael jordan. Sadly, people seem to discredit the past and in 30 years people will be saying the same **** about Michael Jordan and how he played in a older era.

11x NBA Champion
2x NCAA Champion
5x NBA MVP
12x NBA All Star
1st black head coach in American professional sports
Dealt with pre-civil rights racism throughout his career

GOAT

GOAT imo!

less teams means tougher teams to beat since the best basketball players in the world are spread among 8 teams >.>. NBA has gotten weaker not better. Hall of famers from the 60s would dominate today's watered down nba

None of the guys were athletic as today's players and the NBA wasn't even that popular back then. Kids weren't growing up with ambitions to become NBA players especially with the segregation in the sport. Everyone was attracted to baseball primarily then football, then maybe basketball if not soccer. It wasnt nearly as popular then as it is today so its impossible to say they had the best basketball players. 8 teams means a better shot at winning a title is all I was saying. But no the league back then can't remotely **** with the league now in any shape or form. Someone like Joel Anthony could time travel to the 60s and be dominant on new age technology from a nutritional and physical standpoint alone.

gametape watch it, centers today are a joke compared to centers back in the 60s. You seriously think bill russell who used to shut down wilt chamberlain would not utterly dominate in an nba where talent for centers has gone since the 80s and 90s

Bill Russell never "shutdown" Wilt Chaimberlain, he just had a better supporting cast. Wilt always got his points. He weighed 50 more pounds than Bill Russell and was 3 or 4 inches taller. Bill Russell was like the 2nd tallest player in the league at 6 foot 9. Thats one of the many reasons why I'm saying you really can't compare the game of the 60s to the modern era of basketball.

Top 5 player of all time, no doubt.

Bill Russell never "shutdown" Wilt Chaimberlain, he just had a better supporting cast. Wilt always got his points. He weighed 50 more pounds than Bill Russell and was 3 or 4 inches taller. Bill Russell was like the 2nd tallest player in the league at 6 foot 9. Thats one of the many reasons why I'm saying you really can't compare the game of the 60s to the modern era of basketball.

This is when you know someone knows the game of Basketball and when someone relies on ESPN for everything. Here are the players who player during 60-72 period and Includes quite a few HOFers.  All taller than Russell too.

 Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2"
Dennis Awtrey: 6'11"
 Walt Bellamy: 6'11"
 Tom Boerwinkle: 7'0"
Nate Bowmen: 6'11"
 Mel Counts: 7'0"
Walter Dukes: 7'0"
Jim Eakins: 6'11"
Ray Felix: 6'11"
Hank Finkel: 7'0"
Artis Gilmore: 7'2"
Swede Halbrook: 7'3"
Reggie Harding: 7'0"
Bob Lanier: 6'11"
Jim McDaniels: 6'11"
Otto Moore: 6'11"
Dave Newmark: 7'0"
Rich Niemann: 7'0"
Billy Paultz: 6'11"
Craig Raymond: 6'11"
Elmore Smith: 7'0"
Chuck Share: 6'11"
Ronald Taylor: 7'1"
Nate Thurmond: 6'11"
Walt Wesley: 6'11"

This is when you know someone knows the game of Basketball and when someone relies on ESPN for everything. Here are the players who player during 60-72 period and Includes quite a few HOFers.  All taller than Russell too.

 Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2"
Dennis Awtrey: 6'11"
 Walt Bellamy: 6'11"
 Tom Boerwinkle: 7'0"
Nate Bowmen: 6'11"
 Mel Counts: 7'0"
Walter Dukes: 7'0"
Jim Eakins: 6'11"
Ray Felix: 6'11"
Hank Finkel: 7'0"
Artis Gilmore: 7'2"
Swede Halbrook: 7'3"
Reggie Harding: 7'0"
Bob Lanier: 6'11"
Jim McDaniels: 6'11"
Otto Moore: 6'11"
Dave Newmark: 7'0"
Rich Niemann: 7'0"
Billy Paultz: 6'11"
Craig Raymond: 6'11"
Elmore Smith: 7'0"
Chuck Share: 6'11"
Ronald Taylor: 7'1"
Nate Thurmond: 6'11"
Walt Wesley: 6'11"

Im talking about solely the 50s and 60s. Kareem Abdul Jabar and Artis Gilmore definitely didn't play in the 60s. And chill with the condescension.

Bill was shooting in the gym

Greatness transcends time

The best way to judge players across eras is to assume they were born at a different time and grew up with the time periods' rules, nurishments, trainings etc.  If Lebron was born in the 1930s he would not have grown up to be as big and strong as he is now.  If Jordan was born 10 years later than he was he would have grown up with the 3 point shot and most likey would have become a monster at it.  If Russell was born in the 70s and played in the 2000s he would have been bigger and stronger and would have had a different skillset as a result of seeing players play before him and having more healthy foods and diet techniques.

You have to take into account that the 50s and 60s were the dawn of the sport.  Players had no past to look back to to pattern their game after, they were the pioneers.  Bob Cousy invented a bunch of dribble moves that are commonplace for guards today.  But if you put the guards of today in that era with nothing to base their game on would they be better dribblers than Cousy?  Also remember how different the game was before the 3 point line.  Bill Russell had the largest impact of any player ever defensively because you couldn't get a shot off anywhere from 15 feet in against him.  And with no 3 point line, players were forced to take terribly inefficient shots just because of Russell's prowess.  It was really different.

If Russell grew up in a later time period he would have adapted his game as such.  He most likely would have developed a jump shot (he didn't need to in his era because the shot was generally useless, especially as a center, because the best shots were the ones right at the rim), and some dribbling moves to go along with his already amazing passing ability.  People don't know that about Russell- he was one of the best passing big men of all time.  He could run the offense from the high post and dish like no one's business.  Like a super version of Joakim Noah.  He was also an amazing outlet passer, one of the lost arts of today's game.  The only guy who does it nowadays is Kevin Love.  Sometimes Wade does it too when Lebron leaks out after a 3.  Those passes are deadly and in the 60s and 70s were an integral part of every offense because of how fast paced it was.  Back then it was like a 48 minute fast break.  They thought that more shots were better no matter how efficient they were.  It was all about getting as many shots up as possible.  That's why all their shooting percentages are so low and also why guys like Oscar, Elgin, Wilt, Russ, and West put up such insane stats.  It was because of the pace of the game.

Comparing across eras is just really complicated and generally impossible.  It's best just to know that if you were great at one point you would be great at any other point.  That's a very safe assumption.