Kanye To The: Kanye West

IS kanye's best beat

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Emile made the Runaway beat

only Cudi stans think this

Emile co-produced the Runaway beat. he didnt make it

That intro with just the keys in the beginning, then the beat comes in coupled with the "Look at Ya" samples
Dat bass synth in the breakdown, the extra synths on Pusha's verse.

The piano imitation crap is so complex and difficult that it really takes a master to play it.

only Cudi stans think this

Emile co-produced the Runaway beat. he didnt make it

How do you know? Do you just assume like most people? If anything, a rap fan should know not to trust the written credits.

Agreed

Emile made the Runaway beat

Kanye sampled the beat from a pete rock song in the 90's

How do you know? Do you just assume like most people? If anything, a rap fan should know not to trust the written credits.

reading the production credits is not assuming

and you claiming not to trust production credits sounds like you're the one assuming, not me

“I had a beat, and I played it, and it was the foundation of ‘Runaway.’ It was pretty different from the production now, but something about it, the chord progression or the way I put together the chords must’ve rung out to him.  He totally reproduced the record, and kept working on it and working on it, along with Jeff Bhasker, who played the piano line and played a lot of the keys on it. He’s one of my favorite producers too."

http://www.complex.com/music/2011/10/emile-tells-all-the-stories-behind-his-classic-records/kanye-west-pusha-t-runaway

the strings at the end

reading the production credits is not assuming

and you claiming not to trust production credits sounds like you're the one assuming, not me

No, you are wrong. You can either accept it or not. It's your choice whether to think or to just leave that to others since they are better at it.

Production credits are often used for marketing and of course money distribution. Credited people get paid and at times uninvolved people are listed simply because of this. In other cases known names are used to make things look nicer and the people who really did the work remain behind the scenes. On Death Row it was common to put Dr. Dre's name in the producer slot even when he never even touched certain tracks. Kanye is surely listed as a producer on his own tracks even if all he did was adding a pause or a break. Co-producers can be individuals who for example sing a melody so that the "producer" or his/her employees can make the track.

Turning credits from booklets into trustworthy information just does not work. Try collecting items and contacting people and you might be enlightened.

No, you are wrong. You can either accept it or not. It's your choice whether to think or to just leave that to others since they are better at it.

Production credits are often used for marketing and of course money distribution. Credited people get paid and at times uninvolved people are listed simply because of this. In other cases known names are used to make things look nicer and the people who really did the work remain behind the scenes. On Death Row it was common to put Dr. Dre's name in the producer slot even when he never even touched certain tracks. Kanye is surely listed as a producer on his own tracks even if all he did was add a pause. Co-producers can be individuals who for example sing a melody so that the "producer" or his/her employees can make the track.

Turning credits from booklets into trustworthy information just does not work. Try collecting items and contacting people and you might be enlightened.

Unfortunately in this specific case there's written documentation straight from people's mouths that suggest that Kanye had a very large part in creating this record

Unfortunately in this specific case there's written documentation straight from people's mouths that suggest that Kanye had a very large part in creating this record

That is already much better, but still not perfect. In certain cases featured rappers have been found out to be lying about details for unknown reasons. There is no absolute truth that can be told. That is why I really wonder how easily people start claiming they know stuff. The "know it all" type of people exist on all fan forums. It's amazing how often they are wrong.

Btw Runaway ain't better than the Flashing Lights beat to gtfo

even though Ye didn't make it

I've never seen a thread about Runaway production.
I've been on KTT for a year

Lol, that's what i'm saying.

Trying to pick a "best" Kanye beat is like trying to pick the hottest girl in the playboy mansion. damn near impossible.

IS kanye's best beat

Barely even his own beat.

Btw Runaway ain't better than the Flashing Lights beat to gtfo

even though Ye didn't make it

lolno.

All Kanye sampled from The Basement was the drums

It's like saying That's My **** was made by just rapping over this: